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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to US News@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

US officials: "We realize that efforts, implied or explicit, to shape or change the PRC over several decades did not succeed"

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US officials: "We realize that efforts, implied or explicit, to shape or change the PRC over several decades did not succeed"

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to US News@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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Remarks and Q&A by National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on the Future of U.S.-China Relations | The White House
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Council on Foreign RelationsWashington, D.C. MR. SULLIVAN:  At least I had the bravery to give that speech at Brookings rather than at CFR.  So — (laughter) — Mike, I want to say thank you for having me back at CFR.  And to Susan and Kurt and Charlene and Steve, thank you for having me back…
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  • bunbun@lemmygrad.ml
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    Holy fucking copium. The entire thing is “we’re only interested in our national and strategic interests, but that’s actually good for both parties”.

    The year began with the relationship at a historic low point. A year ago this week, a Chinese spy balloon traveled across the United States

    Lmao

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      holy shit why do they bring that up? i thought they decided to memory hole that entire pathetic tantrum…

      incredible losers.

      • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]@lemmygrad.ml
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        Nah, they’re still convinced PRC was trying to spy on the US

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          nah the PRC is spying on the US, they’re right about that much. but they’re spying using satellites and real spies, you know, adult stuff :D

          • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]@lemmygrad.ml
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            Yeah, I’d be shocked if the U.S. wasn’t also trying to spy on the PRC

            • PaulSmackage [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              They do, but their spies keep getting caught lmao

              • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]@lemmygrad.ml
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                The liberalism keeps giving them away ☣️

            • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              the US spies on its allies, of course it’s gonna try to spy on china.

      • jackmarxist [any]@hexbear.net
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        Biden barely has shit on his resume from the past 4 years and a fuckton of his potential voter base hates him. They’re trying everything to increase his chances.

        • huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          so…

          • he was a lifeguard at a pool
          • he shot down a very scary balloon

          and this man has a good chance of winning the election, as i understand it. well.

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            This is actually the best version of his resume. The 60 years in between are not pretty at all

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        It’s funny because they legit admitted it wasn’t a spy balloon months after they blew it up and then waited a while and went back to it after everyone forgot.

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        Basically everyone I know wholeheartedly believe that the balloon was for espionage purposes.

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      historic low point

      When your knowledge of China dates back to maybe the Nixon administration

      • 🏳️‍⚧️ 新星 [she/they]@lemmygrad.ml
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        That’s because when Biden brings up the 1940s, everyone collectively says ok boomer and asks why he’s not in a nursing home yet

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    We also saw something that really stood out, which is that the PRC believed the United States was in terminal decline — that our industrial base had been hollowed out, that our commitment to our allies and partners had been undercut, that the United States was struggling to manage a once-in-a-century pandemic, and that many in Beijing were openly proclaiming that “the East was rising and the West was falling.”

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      Lol, “believed”

      You mean “observed reality”?

    • cricbuzz [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      where’s the lie?

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      xigma-male yes xi-lib-tears

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      THEY SAID THE LINE

      CAN I GET A CHUD EMOTE?

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    xi pointing at the screen

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    Shameless bullies.

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    Nelson haha dot gif

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    deleted by creator

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      This sounds like a prelude to announce their new strategy. But the strategy seems already clear - they called Taiwan their “important military ally”, an incredible provocation. So they are going to try to do the same to China they did to Russia, encircle them on all sides, set a trap, until they lash out. Then they are the bad guys. Hopefully China is smarter than Russia though. But they can’t let Taiwan become an “actively” hostile military outpost of the US right on their doorstep. But I don’t really know what moves either side can realistically make since the economic dependencies are quite strong.

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        The US will lose in a fight against China over Taiwan. And after Ukraine and Gaza most of the world will not care about its sobbing, they will not believe the west’s claims of standing for this or that and they will stand with China. All they will succeed in doing in instigating a conflict with China is bringing out into the open the new cold war.

        It’s not desirable. It’s not optimal, it threatens chaos and all kinds of untold consequences but it is probably much more manageable now that it was before Gaza and Ukraine.

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    Depending on how you’re counting, China is 10x older than the US. It takes a special kind of naivety to think that the nephew can get one over on the uncle.

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      arrogance and stupidity tend to go hand in hand

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    These Dept of State ghouls always parrot the same line that somehow China is cheating and it’s unfair. Quote: “all while addressing the PRC’s non-market practices”

    It’s fucking hilarious they can’t seem to grasp that there are no rules here and that somehow China kicking their ass is just so unfair and cheating. Like what you gonna do, take your ball and go home?

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      It’s an intentional effort to create the impression that the rules US wants to impose on the world are some kind of international law.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Marxism-Leninism is a pathway to many abilities some consider to ne unnatural

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    Wake up babe, new threat of a good example.

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    Womp womp.

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