Of all the things libs think is a sales pitch to vote for Biden “you have to vote for Biden or America’s global influence will decrease and other countries will realize were an unreliable and antagonistic ally” is probably their worst
Allies fear the US is becoming less reliable, with growing concern over a possible Trump return
yanks have never been reliable allies, just ask the people they left in Afganistan as one of the more recent examples
The Euros are convinced that
will come through and spare them. It will be interesting watching them realize that’s not quite the case.
I mean under Biden the US bombed Nordstream and is attempting to vassalise the EU through the Ukraine war. I don’t think the president matters that much, the US will continue to act in its own interests regardless of who the president is
I think U.S. allies had long since internalized that they would occasionally have to eat shit from the U.S. The bargain was a place as a vassal state instead of a target, and if those are your choices being a vassal state has a lot of appeal. The occasional overt screwjob is much less damaging than a constant destabilization effort.
The deal will continue to get worse under any U.S. president, but what they seem to be getting at here is the possibility of it getting torn up altogether, opening the door for more direct U.S. hostility. As long as they support NATO they aren’t likely to be the target of a coup like the 2014 one in Ukraine, but what if NATO is gone?
Trump isn’t going to be allowed to unilaterally withdraw from NATO on a whim, but he could do a lot of damage to it, and he can rile up the reactionary hogs against it, which would at least lay the groundwork for a still more impactful change.
So you are saying Trump is the harm-reduction candidate?
There is no harm reduction candidate. They’re both far past the point of any reason to support them, they’d probably do different bad things, though.
True enough.
If y’all vote for Biden, I’ll have another 4 years to get my partner out of the US and save it from the Republican holocaust. Please?
Europe has been a vassal since 1945. How do you vassalise your vassal?
EU suggested forming an EU army as early as the 1950s! USA was against the EU forming its own integrated military. So was, not a member yet, Britain, historically always scared of a too united continental neighbour. Instead, the Anglo-Saxons basically forced the young EU-predecessors to rely on NATO instead of forming their own big military defence force. How the tables turn.
Kissinger’s more of an egoist of image than a realist about it
Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.
Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
You’re the Doctor of my dreams
With your crinkly hair and your glassy stare
And your machiavellian schemes
I know they say that you are very vain
And short and fat and pushy but at least you’re not insane
Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
And wishing you were here
Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
You’re so chubby and so neat
With your funny clothes and your squishy nose
You’re like a German parakeet
All right so people say that you don’t care
But you’ve got nicer legs than Hitler
And bigger tits than Cher
Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
And wishing you were here
Canada has straight up said we have a doomsday plan if the US goes really wonky.
Which one? Defence Scheme 1?
No, way more recent, and not public yet, for obvious reasons.
Link to an article.
sounds like a grift to funnel more cash into the military ngl.
That’s more of an American thing. The Canadian military is small, run down and getting smaller.
Do we have a doomsday plan if a fascist becomes prime minister like Pierre Poilievre?
Sadly I’m bracing for what I think is the coming Trump/Poilievre combo.
I see him as more of an opportunist catering to fascists. But no, if the call is coming from inside the house, it’s a much bigger problem.
Europeans realizing they’re not America’s core interest after spending two years talking up a war with Russia is never going to stop being hilarious.
“Becoming” less reliable.
The first Trump administration stress-tested the bonds between the U.S. and its allies, particularly in Europe. Trump derided the leaders of some friendly nations, including Germany’s Angela Merkel and Britain’s Theresa May, while praising authoritarians such as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Russian leader Vladimir Putin. He has called China’s Xi Jinping “brilliant” and Hungary’s Viktor Orbán “a great leader.”
This is so stupid. Trump was the one who started a trade war with China. Him praising Xi doesn’t mean shit.
Secondly, despite claiming to be anti-west, Erdogan and Orban are both pro-West allies and will fall in line under pressure. Both countries are NATO members too btw. Why is such a democratic organization like NATO having “authoritarian” countries as members?
Also why is there no mention of Modi? Both Biden and Trump have been more than friendly with him.
Trump’s Israel policy is no different. He is more belligerent towards Iran.
In campaign speeches, Trump remains skeptical of organizations such as NATO, often lamenting the billions the U.S. spends on the military alliance whose support has been critical to Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s invasion.
Rhetoric and actions are entirely different. Trump knows very well that Ukraine War is ultimately beneficial for the U.S. and the MIC.
Another thing to keep in mind, U.S. is NATO, without the U.S there is no NATO.
He warned: “We must realize that the EU cannot be an economic and civilizational giant and a dwarf when it comes to defense, because the world has changed.”
That has been the status of Europe since end of cold war, a puppet of American capitalism, nothing more. And nothing will change unless there is a socialist revolution or something.
Rhetoric and actions are entirely different
Yes, but libs can’t tell a difference. They don’t even need different rhetoric, just tone usually.
It’s going to be this way every election, ain’t it? Basically two year election cycle of Trump once again running, all the fears of him winning, then he looses, and we get next 4 years of him talking shit and “raising concerns”.
It’s not about Trump (the dude may not even live much longer, he looks awful).
It’s about all the people who support his values and way of thinking and use him as a distraction while they erode democratic rights and processes. America is undergoing a tremendous divide which may lead to the federation coming apart and individual states breaking away. That’s what’s worrying the rest of us, not the POTUS making a fool of himself on TV.
That sounds like an overall good thing though? Especially for the rest of the world.
Does it? I’m not looking forward to whichever side decides they want part of Canada.
Why though?
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America is undergoing a tremendous divide which may lead to the federation coming apart and individual states breaking away.
God I wish, US’s balkanization would be such a blessing to the entire world.
It would be hilarious for sure
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I really don’t see him running in 2028. I don’t think his health/Republican money would both line up and support that
Oh it doesn’t matter man, Trump, Biden’s draugr, Kamala, not important. This goose is cooked and you’re all cooked with it if you don’t sever ties. We saw what happened to Europe’s oil, energy and manufacturing sector with just a couple well-placed underwater bombs. The American bourgeois state will eat all of it’s “allies” like Saturn and his children if it means staving off profit collapse for one more quarter .
As if it even matters which shitty imperialist party is in power lol
Only one of them wants to actively kill my queer friends, so yeah, it matters.
No queer friends in Palestine, I’m guessing. But even if only people in the US deserve life, Biden isn’t doing anything to stop LGBQT rights from being dismantled. It will get worse even if Biden wins a second term. If Democrats didn’t codify Roe v. Wade when they had the chance, why do you think they will do anything concrete to protect them, when they can use their fear to scare them into voting for them.
Yup, the same dynamic as the right and immigration. More to gain using as a political football instead. The tactics are from the same, cynical playbook, and partisans are happy to play along when it’s their team.
Biden only passively wants to kill us and is willing to look the other way when states do it, youre right.
Both of them want to actively kill Palestinians, including its queer population. “The lesser evil” one is currently bypassing congress to do so
Sounding alot like this rn
Cool story, still matters for my non-palestinian queer friends.
Both siders and don’t-voters malding hard rn lmao
Notice how you haven’t addressed how dems are any different from reps if both are okay with a genocide so long as they themselves are fine.
Geopolitics is actually one of those examples where it does matter quite a lot. All the planning world leaders does gets thrown out the window when someone new comes on to the stage. For example I don’t think anyone could have predicted America being nice to NK under Trump.
Trump simply subconsciously recognized Juche supremacy.
He realized he’s getting old and needs to get a Juche necromancer for himself before it’s too late.
It matters hugely even internationally. If you’re female it would I’m guessing based on the fact that want to ban abortions. As a guy, I wouldn’t want to be forced to be stuck with a kid.
Are you not paying attention? I’m Australian, and the difference is totally night and day.
Last I checked abortions were banned while dems held the house, congress, and the presidency.
And as a human being, I wouldn’t really want to support a zionazi that’s funding a genocide.
I can’t speak for that.
But sure…
- The rapist who is VERY clear about wanting to be a dictator, is EXACTLY the same as the other guy.
- The rapist with over 30500 known public lies in 4 years… Yeah… Definitely the same.
- The guy who loves other dictators who support genocides? Obviously the same
- Oh, yeah, lets not forget about the guy who killed hundreds of thousands of american’s, and even more worldwide through misinformation during covid. Here in Australia, there are STILL people who were influenced by people like him.
- Also, I forgot about the guy who tried to overthrow the election (and it was obvious leading up to it)
- Lets also not forget about the guy who when found guilty in court is considered so mafia-esque, that the judge told jurors that he STRONGLY recommended people didn’t disclose they were on the jury
- This “businessman” cycles through more lawyers than a supreme court, and his own lawyers say they can’t control him.
- The guy who likely compromised the security of millions of US, Australian and other soldiers by taking classified documents for his own benefit
Joe Biden? When his son was found guilty, he let justice take course.
It would be good to see Michelle Obama stand though instead of him, but, Trump is VERY dangerous. He was willing to start a civil war to get back power, and the only reason he hasn’t gotten into any wars, is because he is likely giving other dictators everything they want (including top secret information)
The only reason we know 100% that he is giving away top secret information, is because of audio recordings, and a billionaire in Australia said directly that was the case.
Joe Biden has done none of that stuff. The judge didn’t need to warn jurors on his son’s trial that they could be targeted if they diclosed they were on it
it matters. one is an accelerationist the other is a conservative of the status quo. neither are going to improve anything but one will try his most to destroy any confidence.
one will try his most to destroy any confidence
Talking about Biden? You know, the one currently supporting a genocide? I’d think that counts as trying “his most to destroy any confidence”
Biden never implied there was a chance the US would abandon its NATO allies in case of a war, Trump did.
Pro-Trump argument? Didn’t expect that here. Regardless, it’d be great if the US actually let NATO destroy itself and limit their ability to commit their imperialism in the middle-east (and across the world), but that’s just rhetoric to get Russia to ally with the US against China; like the US allied with China against the USSR in the Cold War.
Unfortunately the US would never truly antagonize NATO; Trump would just be assassinated and replaced like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA, not that Trump would actually go through with it. He isn’t any better than Biden.
The only way the US would improve is if a leftist org took power over this thinly-veiled imperialist oligarch altogether from outside its political system, which is designed to prevent leftward movement in the first place.
Also uh, I don’t think US’s ongoing genocide victims care about that.
germany is doing the same. so i guess confidence isn’t being destroyed between those two. but is was talking about the american isolationist trump.
It absolutely seems to matter.
For the first one, it’d be great if the US actually let NATO destroy itself, but that’s just rhetoric to get Russia to ally with the US against China; like they allied with China against the USSR in the Cold War. Unfortunately the US would never truly antagonize NATO; Trump would just be assassinated and replaced like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA.
For the second… you’re currently watching a zionazi president bypassing congress to hasten the Palestinian genocide.
Citizens think it’s becoming unreliable regardless of who’s president.
Welp, time for Europe to start making nukes again. What could possibly go wrong?
[Happy French noises]
they can’t wait to give them to ukrainian nazis et al like they gave them to
