• billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 hours ago

    I remember a podcast I used to listen to a long time ago that argued that MS should just make a fork of the Linux kernel and just make the gui work like Windows. Better security and stability, and huge increase in user base with all the normal Linux users seeing it as viable alternative. I thought it was a brilliant idea. Well except Microsoft would likely have figured a way to kill Linux from the inside.

  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
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    5 hours ago

    It’d help if Lunduke were to explain the true origin of those things like Ada Lovelace and programming, and Grace Hopper and the moth. And what predated that.

  • gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    Oh it’s infamous racist Bryan Lunduke. Is there no rule against posting that guy?

      • gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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        1 hour ago

        He’s an anti-woke crusader and bigot. A large chunk (probably most) of his “content” is actually about that.

        CW all sorts of bigotry

        “Best Alternatives to Woke Software”, “Devuan: The Non-Woke Debian Linux Fork”, lots of shit like that.

        He loves talking about so-called “reverse racism”, he thinks white people are oppressed in US tech.

        Here’s a recent one:

        https://lunduke.substack.com/p/meta-ending-del-ending-fact-checking

        They [Meta] are allowing criticism of LGTBQ+blublublub issues, including *snicker* the statement that gay people are mentally ill […] and they’re allowing vaccine skepticism on the platform […] and it is, I’m not gonna lie, mildly hilarious.

      • Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social
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        4 hours ago

        I don’t have a list of specific instances on hand. But he was kind of a contrarian voice for a while that I listened to over a decade ago, but in 2016 went in the more anti-woke (anti-CRT in terms of the time) and very reactionary culture war turn.

  • DFX4509B@lemmy.orgEnglish
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    7 hours ago

    No it’s not, it’s based on BSD, or more specifically Darwin, which is derived from BSD, so Unix-like, but not Linux.

    Although, oddly, macOS is a certified UNIX OS so it can rightfully sit at the table with the SysV distros such as AIX, HP-UX, or Solaris, but it’s nothing like those OSes in its nature.

    • dan@upvote.au
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      7 hours ago

      I saw this exact same comic a while back but it was for Fish Linux.

  • ThiefUserPermissions@lemmy.myserv.one
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    9 hours ago

    The video claims ada lovelace did not write the first computer program but it would kind of depend how you define what that is. If you check wikipedia it states:

    “During 1842–1849, Ada Lovelace translated the memoir of Italian mathematician Luigi Menabrea about Charles Babbage’s newest proposed machine: the Analytical Engine; she supplemented the memoir with notes that specified in detail a method for calculating Bernoulli numbers with the engine, recognized by most of historians as the world’s first published computer program.”

    From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_programming_languages

    This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

  • gerdesj@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    10 hours ago

    Who on earth actually cares? Those 12% are probably not really wrong either, apparently.

    Can you fiddle up a weird black screen with lots of $ and # symbols? Yes, its a Unix and its probably Linux.

    MacOS is odd because I say so and because most users of it will insist on their screen being darkened and brightened at the same time. I don’t like black being rammed into my eyes.

    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
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      7 hours ago

      Can you fiddle up a weird black screen with lots of $ and # symbols? Yes, its a Unix and its probably Linux.

      You heard it here first folks, windows is a Unix and probably Linux!

  • lordnikon@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 hours ago

    I wish it was then it may make sense. Every time I use the MacOS terminal. It’s like an uncanny valley so similar but the more you look the more horrific it becomes. I can’t even say it’s Unix is the problem as freebsd makes complete sense.

  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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    13 hours ago

    macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.

    But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I’d understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It’s not hard to see why they might’ve thought it’s Linux based.

    • Dragonstaff@leminal.spaceEnglish
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      11 hours ago

      I think 10% of people believe nearly anything. It’s basically the rounding error for a survey.

      Honestly, if you had asked me 10 minutes ago “Is MacOS based on Linux?” I would have gotten it wrong. But if you asked “Is MacOS based on UNIX or Linux?” I would have gotten it right.

      • Cousin Mose@lemmy.hogru.ch
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        11 hours ago

        It is now, but it was bash before.

        But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced you’ll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.

        • False@lemmy.world
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          5 hours ago

          Yeah, it’s always fun to find out that a standard looking util on osx actually requires weird args and syntax.

          • Cousin Mose@lemmy.hogru.ch
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            5 hours ago

            I’m mostly used to it now. Though -r is supported in macOS’ rm command I still prefer -R and use it even on Linux where I believe -r is the preferred argument.

  • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    I would be more surprised if 12% of “tech workers” know what Linux is at all.

    Fwiw: I work in a call center as basically a more knowledgeable tech for our client facing team to rely on for help and only about 1% of them have any familiarity with Linux in the slightest.

    I wonder about the framing of this question, like another comment mentioned, it’s kinda like evolution where MacOS and Linux have a common ancestor, I could see the wording throwing people off.

    “Is MacOS based on linux” seems to be the wording used?

    I’d bet less would fall for, “Is MacOS a Linux distribution?”

    Edit: Ha some people in the comments had similar thoughts, in addition to Linux and Unix being nearly synonymous to all but those who are very into that kind of thing.

    Edit again, if anyone else is curious https://youtu.be/jowCUo_UGts