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There might be some changes that could improve it further:
- Remove Brave
- Maybe add Signal; It’s easier than Element, but it’s also centralized
- Stop suggesting Linux Mint specifically
- Recommend Hosted Nextcloud
- Add GrapheneOS
- Maybe add Delta chat
- Maybe remove Bluesky
- Remove Stremio and add Jellfyin (even though it’s selfhosted and not a direct equivalent)
- Add ente because Immich is selfhosted
- Add aurora
- Add SearxNG
Any other suggestions?
My problem with Jellyfin is that I’d need something like Google Chromecast for it. AFAIK all those dongles are American. Raspberry pi doesn’t cut it unfortunately.
Omg, Stremio without VPN is the worst advise ever. This graphic could do get innocent pirates fined and then they’ll just think there was no alternative!!
Lichess instead of chess(dot)com.
Thanks to another post in this community I found out about and it is great.
- Open source
- No ads
- unlimited puzzels from real games
- No constant message to buy premium
- All the finances are public
You can donate to the project, if you have the means and enjoy the app please do.
And their tutorials to learn how to play are fire !
Maybe add
Delta chatSimpleX (and Signal of course)Add SearxNG as a search engine option.
Maybe add Signal; It’s easier than Element, but it’s also centralized
signal runs on amazon servers. Anything that can’t self host and isn’t federate isn’t worth it. Matrix (and element) fill this requirement. But IMHO, the best is XMPP where you can self-host or use federated servers located in other countries.
Maybe add Delta chat
Delta chat is basically email.
Remove Stremio
Why? Because it’s torrents?
Other alternatives would be viaplay or britbox. Unfortunately there’s no legal alternative that’s available in all europe.
Add aurora
Aurora is just a front-end for google playstore. You should add f-droid
If everything is e2e encrypted do servers actually matter?
yes. Metadata. some protocols leak more info than the others.
Also servers in only one place (institution), only makes it easier for the government to go to that place and seize them.
signal runs on amazon servers. Anything that can’t self host and isn’t federate isn’t worth it. Matrix (and element) fill this requirement. But IMHO, the best is XMPP where you can self-host or use federated servers located in other countries.
Why would you prefer XMPP? Last time I checked most features (like E2EE) weren’t part of the base protocol.
Delta chat is basically email.
It supports mail, but also has an encrypted normal chat backend AFAIK
Why? Because it’s torrents?
Yes, it’s not really a good alternative since it’s illegal. I’m not judging but it’s not a good option for most people.
Aurora is just a front-end for google playstore. You should add f-droid
Droid-ify is F-droid
Why would you prefer XMPP? Last time I checked most features (like E2EE) weren’t part of the base protocol.
Just because it is not part of the base protocol, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or supports it.
I like it for personal reasons. Just because is lightweight and there are way much more servers than matrix, imho makes it better. However, In the end it boils down to personal preferences and your attack surface.
It supports mail, but also has an encrypted normal chat backend AFAIK
WHen i tried it years ago, it was just a normal email with a special subject that the delta chat client would read, parse and display.
WHen i tried it years ago
you should try it again, Delta Chat is totally on a different level than a few years ago, there has been tons of improvements, I started using it around 2018, now I am even contributing to it
Delta chat is basically email.
and how is that exactly a problem? the protocol is email, but email done right is actually good and fast, as it can be tested if you actually try out the app. The new chatmail servers are optimized for chatting, the main reason classic email providers suck is because they have to deal with spam and arbitrary decisions like gray-listing etc
Email isn’t a good protocol for instant messaging (it wasn’t designed for real time communication and it lacks some features like typing indicators or voice/video calls)
it is pointless to talk in theory without actually trying things out, besides the app doesn’t have to do only email, in fact it already has p2p support for real-time that can be used for now inside the https://webxdc.org/ mini-apps, and might be used for calls in the future, or just use WebRTC for calls, one of the mini-apps in the store “Live Chat” already has typing indicators btw. The app already has Jitsi Meet invitations integration.
Chatting in Delta Chat with chatmail feels just as fast as WhatsApp, Telegram etc. sometimes even faster depending on the chatmail server you use
The app already has Jitsi Meet invitations integration.
That’s cool!
I’m not going to change my IM app, because i’m happy with, but it’s nice to know of alternatives.
Obtainum + F-Droid is best combo.
FYI, droid-ify is an F-droid app
I know I also used it but it’s just like frontend for F-Droid repo. That’s why I said F-Droid
Why are brave, lineage os and youtube revanced there, but not aurora store
And Stremio but not Jellyfin?
I feel like there would be value in having a “self hosted” column or tag. Like I think jellyfin should be on this list but if I went to switch from a streaming service to a self hosted jellyfin I’d be immediately upset that this list isn’t offering alternatives that are “ready to play” so to speak.
Just a friction point deterrence.
Yes, if I create my own version I will add something to differentiate.
do it!
Suggesting linux mint specifically is good. Linux is overwhelming to new users, don’t give them choice paralysis too.
I completely agree! I switched to Linux Mint yesterday, and please don’t give me a bunch of alternatives before even deciding to try out Linux 🤣 Took me much longer to take the leap BECAUSE of all those alternatives.
How’s it going so far?
I honestly agree here. Better to suggest a specific distro than just saying “use Linux”.
Fun that Element is on the list, while there is a 3rd bill attempt in a year to forbid or bypass encryption in instant messaging. Europe maybe not as fascist as US or Russia, it’s still is a shitty capitalist and imperialist place.
Yes exactly I’m mostly on-board with this flyer, I particularly like that tagline. But the inclusion of the EU flag is just completely bewildering to me, even as an EU resident myself. Are there really people out there who see the EU as some sort of bastion of freedom and justice?! Or is this some noncredibledefense-esque ironic meme that I’m too dumb to understand?
Linux Mint is the simplest Linux distro if you come from Windows, unless there are others that recommendation is pretty much accurate.
Anyone else who uses other distros on a daily basis will simply skip that recommendation.
Nobara is a really solid distro for gamers. It’s packaged with a lot of stuff to streamline the setup.
Lineage OS doesn’t support Bootloader Re-locking (well tbf that’s a manufacturer issue) and Verified Boot, so its a huge security issue. Like, if you want to avoid google and have security, Graphene OS is the only real option for a phone, which ironically, is only available on a Google Phone 🙃
Netflix… —> thepiratebay[DOT]org (replace [DOT] with a dot) 🏴☠️😉 (might need a VPN since some countries block it, and you wouldn’t want to torrent without a VPN anyways)
And Briar for messaging (Android Only). It’s all Peer-to-Peer, and doesn’t go through ANY central servers, maximum independence. And censorship resistant because of default Tor usage, and also local Bluetooth synching for like mass protests, in case your government also gets a bit… fascist… and shut down the internet.
Theres also CalyxOS, which is not only easier to install than lineage, but also relocks the bootloader and includes MicroG, which improves overall compatibility (especially regarding banking apps).
torrents-csv.com works great
Lineageos apparently does but you need to build and sign it yourself
Also add Fairphone (Netherlands) and Nothing (UK) as alternatives to iPhone and other Androids.
I thought that section was more to get away from stock android and google rather than just US companies, I have a nothing phone and it very much uses regular android and google services though the bootloader is unlockable to install something like LineageOS.
