She told Swedish media that she will not be appealing the verdict.

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    Let me get this straight:

    • Destroying the planet for profit: LEGAL
    • Peacefully suggesting they shouldn’t: ILLEGAL

    The law has nothing to do with morality, no matter what anyone tells you.

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      /me does that unusual thing of actually reading the article … ah, here we go “Protestors physically blocked oil tankers in the harbour… When the protestors were ordered to move to allow vehicles to pass, Greta was among those who refused. She was then dragged away by police.”

      So she wasn’t peacefully protesting, which by the way IS legal in most places; she was being obstructive, somewhat like those Just Stop Oil muppets who glue themselves to roads. It’s fine to protest. It’s not fine to prevent others from living their lives, and that’s why she was prosecuted.

      We can stop oil when we have a better choice.

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        No, but there are tons of people who believe something is moral as long as it’s legal, and even more people who believe something being illegal makes it inherently immoral.

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    her punishment was a 2500 SEK fine? They’ve just told the entire country that we can pay the equivalent of a new bicycle to block oil tankers, this is amazing.

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      Where the hell do you get a new bicycle for 2500 SEK? I paid 2 or 3 times that for a midrange bike (in Estonia, admittedly). 2500 SEK is good used bike territory.

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          Eh maybe if you only want to cycle slowly around town, sure. For me, a bicycle is more for exercise than transportation.

          It’s kinda the same as saying 8k EUR gets you a new car. I mean yeah, it’s technically true, it gets you a Dacia Sandero, but most people will still go for something they can actually enjoy.

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              That’s what THAT bike is for. A good bike can be used to actually get to places in time. Hence why I didn’t know people under 60 get those in other countries.

              I’m just saying it’s weird to call the bare minimum “the price of a new X” in a comparison.

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            what? this is a standard bike that anyone here would consider a proper bicycle, perfectly usable.

            Like, the netherlands (where almost everyone rides a bike on the regular) is known for largely consisting of this kind of bike, it’s all you need and buying something more expensive just poses a risk of theft or damage.

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              Difference in cycling cultures I suppose. Around here this would be considered an old lady bike. It’s great for slowly cruising around the city, but I just wouldn’t feel comfortable at high speeds, or on trails, etc. I prefer to get everywhere fast like a bat out of hell (an ADHD trait, going anything but my full speed, full-on anaerobic on my commute even, feels wrong and tedious) and need a single bicycle to work on roads, streets and trails, so I got this low-mid range hybrid. This is the most common type of bike here (well actually now fatbikes are more common, but that’s a stupid trend. And I suppose full-on mountain bikes are very popular too).

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                Well, you’re right, this is a bike meant for transportation, not sports. Still counts as a bike though, so original comment is right too. Everybody in the Netherlands and Belgium has one of these (and if you wanna do cyclocross or bmx or fast road cycling, you have a second, third, … bike)

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                  Ah yeah Estonia is not rich enough for everyone to buy 5 bikes so we buy one that can do everything.

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      Complaining about climate change will not make governments move nor civil disobedience, only when we get more than 100+ deaths due to hot temperatures per day and food shortage governments will react.
      Sadly that’s how our species work on a global scale, something must go really wrong to make the world do something about it.

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    This girl just follow get famous quick scheme.

    If you want to protect environment, prove it by action, not acting.

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      She already took all the actions she needs and more. Now she is teaching clueless meeks like you that they need to take actions too.
      And I’m not talking about recycling and not using plastic straws, I’m talking collectively making elites accountable.
      You, of course, will side with the elites that are killing you, but other people might not

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        It’s never enough for these people. She could literally be pulling carbon out of the environment with her bare hands, and people would say something like “wow, look at her doing it to get all the attention for herself”

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    She broke the law and was fined. Honestly, that’s a pretty mild punishment. She could’ve probably been sentenced to prison, at least that would have been possible in Denmark (neighboring country). She should consider herself pretty lucky IMO that she got a get out of jail card just on the basis that she’s a public figure known for disobeying the rules.