ok. enlightment how to have a civil debate with people that wants to blame all their problems on people purely based on their birth characteristics?
For starters, by not assuming every single one of them blames all their problems on people purely based on their birth characteristics. Treat them with no prejudice. You’re likely prejudiced against lower class people and not even realise it. Listen to what they have to say and see what led them to distrust public institutions, what are their troubles and priorities.
I get their distrust. I dont get why they would put their trust in a person that is very much the embodiment of the reason for the distrust.
Why do you say i have prejudice against lower class? Most the ones i know thag support him are higher class than me.
Most the ones i know that support him are higher class than me.
Statistically this is not a representative group.
I like the part youre assuming that what class i belong to.
Have you considered being out of touch then?
Probably. I cant fathom why anyone rational sees trump being the solution to their problems even if he was the solution, it would be the demise of millions of americans.
So, not much is changing then but you assumed history can only move forward. We’ve reached a point where this belief is pretty much a modern secular religion - nobody guaranteed it would be so. This religion even has prophets like Francis Fukuyama who I blame for popularising it.
It’s likely we will be set back again many times and there’s no guarantee that the end result will be satisfying. The best thing we can do for now is to figure out why those things happen in the first place without attributing blame. The future needs to include everyone, even the bigots. My guess most of the bigots wouldn’t be bigots if they had higher participation in profits that our societies generate. This is because politicians funnel those into the pockets of various oligarchs. Neither Republicans or Dems will fix that unfortunately.
Bigots are created from fear and tribalism. The oligarches love useing those innate fears and stoke the fire shifting the blame from them to the “others”. They convince people they once day can be an “elite” too if they try hard enough, but its the “others” that holds them down.
How does one go about convincing people their problems start from the top? That people like trump is the very essence of their problem? Obviously dems only fight to maintain a status quo and i can understand why people dont turn to them. I can see how trump won in 2016. But after 4 years of a do nothing adminstration, things getting worse… and him quadruple down on his rethorics… how can anyone not see the obvious that he has nothing good to offer.
