Attorneys for Luigi Mangione asked a judge to stop federal prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against their client, saying the U.S. government “intends to kill Mr. Mangione as a political stunt.”
The motion filed Friday in the U.S. District Court of the Southern District said U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi ordered the death penalty to “carry out President Trump’s agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again.”
Mangione, 26, who faces state murder and terrorism charges in New York, along with federal murder and stalking charges, is accused of murdering United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year in New York City.
Unproven accusatory public statements by AG Bondi against currently completely innocent Luigi Mangione (in a normal world) should undermine the case against him.
I’m no legal expert but to reasonable court this should be worthy of a miss trial. How can you hold an impartial trial under the circumstances?
Is this even the guy who did it? There is an enormous potential for scapegoating in this case.
I don’t think the judge will agree with you on this, although of course it remains to be seen. Police and prosecutors often make some statements, but the reality is that many potential jurors aren’t watching the news. For example, I didn’t know about this particular statement until I read this article.
Of course almost everyone knows about Luigi himself. That’s not what I’m saying. But if the claim is that a third party government statement has jeopardized the possibility of him getting a fair trial on a death penalty case, that seems to be factually dependent on who’s on the jury and what they saw.
There’s a guy who killed 23 people in a Walmart in El Passo in 2022. Got charged with hate crimes on account of…he’s openly racist and said that’s why he did it.
That guy just got a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Nobody should identify the criminal justice system in America as anything else but a mechanism for protecting the rich.
I’ve seen this case mentioned a few times but isn’t this standard practice? Don’t they always use the threat of the death penalty to encourage people to take a plea deal?
Yes, they convince people not to get their whole trial(s) by threatening to kill them.
What was Luigi’s plea offer? I don’t think he was offered one.
thier trying to setup the stage, to poison the jury against him. its a classic tactic when they dont have enough evidence against him.
In that case, the prosecutor was approached by the victims families. They did not want to the death penalty, because it would have meant having a trial until at least 2028.
The death penalty is ethically wrong to me because you can’t trust the system 100%, even in the best case. Death row inmates have been exonerated with additional evidence, or just better processing of existing evidence, or other reasons. Unless the judicial system is 100% accurate (which, spoiler, it neither is nor possibly can be), you introduce the possibility of executing innocent people, which should be abhorrent to everyone.
The case against him is so phony. None of the “evidence” is admissible. There’s a ton of prejudicial statements from the investigators and the prosecutors.
This trial is a sham.
The charges should be dismissed with prejudice.
It is so railroaded by no longer believe Luigi did it.
They’re just pinning it on him as a show to the elites that they are putting on a show for the poors : if you kill one of us we’ll kill you right back.
Ok, I’ll take that deal. One of us for one of them. They’ll run out faster. I can volunteer first if You let me take out Musk.
Blue skies and green lights my friend
They wanted to act quick to nip it because people got so happy when that cunt got his comeuppance. It’s gonna backfire
thats why there have been superfluous amount of charges, hopefully they can convince at elast 1 jury group to convict on something. by the way, witty dint even bat an eye he got killed, the head CEO of UHG, neither did hemsley BOD. the wife is estranged from him, and , we discussed on reddit since they are seperate she wont have to fight him on Divorce battle in court.
If he is acquitted, expect the MAGA Nazis to raise the stakes, and go with the classic Nazi strategy - you kill one of us, and we choose 10 random innocent people from the community and publicly execute them.
The only good Nazi is dead.
Either it’s make america great or safe again, the “america” is never the citizens, it’s always the 1%, notice that?
Definitely. Things politicians say make a lot more sense when you realize that code speak.
It kind of always has been this way. “The people,” “Americans,” “White people,” etc have always been defined arbitrarily, and always in American history have referred to wealthy landowners who adhered to a puritan work ethic and a supposed “Anglo-Saxon” culture.
It’s so sad seeing the poor and lower middle class thinking that it is about them.
even worst that poc, and lgbtq+ think they are one of them too, unless your evil and thiel"rich" you are not one of thier ingroups.
I want absolutely fucking everyone to stop calling it an assassination.
Words have meaning.
This was a murder. Let’s not elevate CEOs to the status of the House.
An alleged murder!
Oh, no.
Dude was murdered.
We just don’t know who did it. :)
Not til proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of their (also healthcare deprived) peers.
No way was that guy murdered, i saw the video, he just collapsed after someone pointed at him.
I’m guessing he had a pre-existing allergy to lead.
Yeah but he was an asshole which was a pre-existing condition, so we’re going to have to deny murder coverage here.
But luigi didn’t do it. He was with me playing video games in altiona
Who said Luigi???
Not me!
he was in canada at the time.
By definition, it was an assassination.
Assassination is the willful killing, by a sudden, secret, or planned attack, of a person—especially if prominent or important. It may be prompted by political, ideological, religious, personal, financial, or military motives.
Yeah you’re doing the thing where you elevate a CEO to that of a person of prominence and imprtantce.
That’s oligarchy shit.
Homeboy was a rich fuck with a job and kids, and he got murdered. Seemingly in cold blood.
Not assassinated.
Yeah. You’re doing the thing where you change the definition of a thing to that of something that better matches your personal opinion of it.
Assassination is the willful killing, by a sudden, secret, or planned attack, of a person—especially if prominent or important. It may be prompted by political, ideological, religious, personal, financial, or military motives.
I highlighted the words that are synonymous with a CEO of one of the largest insurance companies to ever exist.
How was it not an assassination?
It was retaliatory. It was the price the CEO paid for underhanded practices that killed thousands. By denying those people healthcare that could have been life saving; he, the CEO, invited what happened. If something that would be considered illegal is done in protection of others it shouldn’t be a crime.
and witty was brazen to double down too.
first of it itsnt, political, or a public figure. hes a low-level CEo, you wouldnt know existed.
Because an assassination specifically involves the killing of someone holding political power or public office… like an elected official, diplomat, or head of state. CEOs may have economic influence or lobby politicians, but they’re not government officials or elected representatives. Calling it an assassination falsely equates corporate influence with legitimate political authority, elevating economic power to the same status as democratic representation. It’s a murder, not an assassination. Words matter, and precision here is crucial.
I feel like acknowledging that corporate interests DO have extreme political power is kind of the whole point.
We the people should just nullify any jury and break our boy out. Fuck the police. They would kill anyone given the opportunity.
Feels like this case is less about justice and more about setting an example—whether that’s political or public theater. Death penalty or not, the timing and narrative definitely feel curated.
it was apparent it was more political, and example the moment the witchhunt began. especially with the clown adams escorting his perpwalk.
If he gets sentenced to dearh, this country absoluteIy will not be “safe again”.
I’m not trying to instigale anything. Just making a logical prediction in minecraft.
They want to silence him, but I don’t think they will be able to.
Don’t most prosecutors go for the throat assuming the defense will attempt to plea-down?
This could just be them just trying to get them to settle for a life-sentencing?
What you said is true some of the time. In this particular situation I don’t think it’s accurate. I think the prosecution really does want to execute the guy, because they don’t like the example set. They don’t like the notion of random white American men taking out CEOs. The prosecution wants to protect their rich friends.
Also, prosecutors have an ethical responsibility to not bring charges or punishments that they don’t think fit. In other words, if they want to try to get the death penalty, they have to actually believe that the evidence justifies asking for it. Ethically they are not allowed to throw every charge at the defendant and see what sticks. In reality, prosecutors ignore the ethical rules that they are sworn to uphold on a regular basis, and only rarely to judges regulate them for it.
if they botched the arrest, which they did, it wont be in his best interest, especially it became political too.
He won’t be getting a jury of his peers. It will be a corrupt kangaroo court
State murder. Federal murder. Stalking lol. Why not slap him with jaywalking fine for good measure.
Christ this dude is going to get railroaded so hard.
He’s so dreamy, my Luigi could do no wrong
Remember, if you’re selected for jury duty and you know what Jury Nullification is, NO, YOU DO NOT.
Jury Nullification? I’ve never heard of it, never once, not even in that popular CPG Grey video.
Off topic, so sorry about that… but is there a list of people maintained somewhere that will absolutely never be called for jury duty? If so, I suspected that I’m on it. I thought that by now (age 41), I’d have at least gotten a summons or something to show up at least once. I’ve never even been asked to show up.
i know some dont, basically leos, family of LEO, lawyers,paralegals are the least likely to get called into jury service, due to thier knowledge of the courts, which might make hard to convince one side over the other. secondly PHDs, MDs are least likely to be selected due to thier professional training at overanalyzing things. these are the people least likely to be chosen, but not 100%. ever since i started voting ever election, ive gotten once a year, sometimes multiple times a year for summons. They look at your voter registration, dmv records.
i once showed for the first time when i was in CC, only because i had school and couldnt have a later date, i was lucky they had no cases that day. ive been mostly dismissed every other time. (one time i forgot).
Isn’t it illegal to lie as a jury member?
I’m the current administration, what is even legal?
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