Like y’all keep posting about it, praising it, giving it free advertisement, and what not.

But the dev is a fascist, the discord server is a fascist bar, and the project thus is fascist.

I’ve met people who were harassed, I browsed through now deleted messages of Vaxry using slurrs and more.

So I wonder is if the people who post constantly about it know and are complicit, or just don’t know and would act otherwise?

It gets tiring to see the project be given “fame” when I know the roots of the plants are founded in toxicity & abuse.

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    There’s no drama like FOSS drama.

    Agree with the other comments here saying that not everything in life should be viewed through the prism of politics. Civilised society is comprised of people putting their differences aside to work together on various endeavours.

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    I disagree with you. Of course having any actual point to disagree with you gets my comment removed, because Lemmy is awesome and is free speech and stuff. Yay. This shit is infuriating.

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    I’m going to shill Hyprland just to spite you.

    Maybe I would have cared about this a year ago. But you guys have said this so many times I’m honestly just tired. Try to get a new shtick. Say he’s transphobic or something. That would get you more upvotes.

    This behavior is one of the reasons why people are abject towards FOSS. You are doing a disservice to nobody but yourself.

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    Im looking forward to the full release of cosmic as I dont want to keep using hyprland. Sadly theming is incomplete and it’ll be a while before good themes get released.

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    You call man a bigot and you make a drama publicly because you can’t stand how he can have a different opinion or way of living than you, right? Guess that makes you… a bigot? 😉

    I made myself a promise to donate to Hyprland and Vaxry every time I see bad press against him. And I just made another payment. He makes good software and this is something he should concentrate on and just like many others on this thread: I don’t care if he has one opinion or the other. You don’t like it? Just don’t engage with him, his Discord or Hyprland, let the guy have his space.

    Or make another bad press and make me donate again, I’ll happily do that💪🏻

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        I wouldn’t’ve gunned down those minors from ethnic minorities if the leftist SJWs didn’t have so many pronouns!!!

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      You also donate to the KKK? How’s your investment in anti-trans communities going so far, what’s the ROI? Happy with all the hatred you are fueling?

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        If you honestly throw KKK and Vaxry into the same bucket then I guess it speaks for yourself: as for me, I’m not going deeper into conversation if this is how it starts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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          I didn’t do it. He did that himself, he [pretty much, in other words] said:

          “I’m fine with a genocidal transphobe homophobe racist antisemite literal murderer being welcomed of my software community if he was alive now. As long as he keeps his crimes against humanity off the main focus: my project and my project alone.”

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    Well my laptop is facist hyprland and I am writing on tankie Lemmy.

    And don’t give a f*ck about it. Because it’s open source. And devs can do whatever they want, the same as users can do what they want.

    If someone is unhappy with the devs, fork it and do your own stuff with it. Nobody cares.

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    The main reason why I use open source is precisely because I don’t need or want to worry about this crap. The software is as much property of humanity as it is of the creator, it is basically just knowledge

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      Absolutely this. Too many people think that because you use some open source software from some fascist dev that “obviously you’re fascist, too”.

      Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

      Hating on Hyprland users that know what’s going on but still really like the software fits this definition. Plus, isn’t the biggest kick in the face having the exact people you hate use and enjoy your software?

      This is exactly why I switched from PolyMC to Prism Launcher. The PolyMC dev was a fascist prick and an anti-gay/trans activist. His fear was that PolyMC was “going to get taken over by the gays due to the name having Poly in it (as in polysexual)”, so he started banning all the devs who disagreed with him or even made a joke about it.

      Those devs forked the project and, to rub salt in the wound, made the icon rainbow. But guess what? Its the same software. They forked it because they still liked it and wanted to use it. The software itself had absolutely nothing to do with the dev.

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        I got the impression that the PolyMC situation was quite different, with that developer masking it and doing a minority of the work, but after one change made by the rest of the developers they snapped, used their control over the repository to remove the rest of the maintainers and take sole control over the repository.

        I was aware of some shenanigans and hostility from PolyMC and never used it, but I got the impression there were no major outward signs before that happened?

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          There really wasn’t a lot of ramp up to it but there were Discord screenshots of his toxic personality being put down in r/feedthebeast at the time and (iirc) one of the devs that actually did do work on the project quoted the whole “poly” thing. Dunno if there was a screen of it, though.

          But even before that, there was apparently some horrible stuff that MultiMC did that resulted in PolyMC and other forks in the first place. That whole application has a shady past, tbh.

          I’m just trying to say, use Hyprland if you like Hyprland. There WILL be a fork of it someday. That is always guaranteed to happen when a dev becomes a piece of shit. Its all about when it is going to happen, but by all means move over to the fork when it does.

          As long as its open source and money does not change hands, you are in no way directly supporting a fascist dev. Once that software is on your PC that software is yours to do what you want with it, not the dev’s. By all means, design your Hyprland as pro-trans with trans flag colors. I endorse that wholeheartedly, in fact. 🏳️‍⚧️

          I just don’t like when people get auto-labeled for something they use or do. Its basic stereotyping and it drives me nuts. A lot of people just don’t want to give the benefit of the doubt to others before even getting to know them. Getting branded because of a piece of software you enjoy is just… its up there, at any rate. I really can’t put words to how frustrated it makes me. I don’t even use Hyprland (I did try it, though). I run KDE because I’m a dirty mouse user. I’m much too smoothbrain for a tiling WM.

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      This! If it is Free Software, it respects everyone’s freedom. If I don’t like the developer, I will not buy them a coffee. If I don’t like the software practices of the developer, a fork is in order (e.g. Oracle with OpenOffice --> LibreOffice)

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    Honestly I just stopped caring about developer’s personalities or political views. If you only use products made by nice guys who share your political views you won’t use anything in your life. Not even a phone.

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      All the VR users that care about this sort of thing better be aware of Oculus’ founder Palmer Luckey too. Their friends will be so sad when they stop showing up in VR chat

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        Uhh if they cared about that they wouldn’t be using a meta owned headset in the first place. Palmer luckey sold oculus to facebook a decade ago

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        Well, I also have some bad news for the users of Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, Meta, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Target, FedEx, Dell, Lowe’s, General Electric, Proctor & Gamble, IBM, Nvidia, AMD, Cisco, Publix, Intel, HP, United Airlines, Nike, Oracle, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Dow Chemical Company, Best Buy, Cargill, Koch Industries, H-E-B, Love’s, JPMorgan Chase, Johnson & Johnson,

        …I could go on.

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    After reading a lot of the material I am not convinced the hyprland dev can reasonably be called a “fascist”.

    It’s an interesting story, though.

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    Repeat after me:

    “You do not support a project or its dev in any way by just using the software you got for free.”

    In fact, unless you donate, advertize or contribute to the project, you’re a net drain on its resources.

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      Great, so you agree with OP, who was criticizing people who are:

      posting about it, praising it, giving it free advertisement, and what not

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      I don’t disagree exactly, but I’d argue that you’re contributing to the project even if you’re just reporting bugs or helping others with it on e.g. Lemmy.

      I could see avoiding all of that pragmatically in order to use some obscure, critical software, but not something you use every day and for which there are reasonable alternatives.