I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

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    https://sopuli.xyz/ if you’re European

    Out of curiosity, how come you don’t recommend your own instance, feddit.org?

    I think the main concern new users have are “Can I see everything across Lemmy, or will I be getting a fragmented experience?”. This was my initial concern and I’ve seen Redditors also voice this concern. People don’t know if being on an instance means you can only be isolated to that instance, which would mean missing out on wider content, or whether you see everything (at which point you might ask what is the point of the instances then?).

    By presenting people with “here’s an instance if you’re American, here’s another if you’re European” might support the idea that people will get differenct experiences based on their location. They might ask: “Do Americans see different content to Europeans? What’s the difference? Maybe the American instance will have more users so I’ll pick that instead.”

    In reality it doesn’t matter, you can sign up to an instance and subscribe to 0 communities on your own instance, but people don’t know this if they don’t know anything about it. I do wonder whether instances should be scored by a few factors and recommended that way?

    • How many instances they’ve defederated from - the bigger the number the more it negatively affects the score
    • How many admins it has - instances with 1 admin should not be recommended at all
    • Availability - probably don’t want to recommend instances with poor uptime
    • Theme - more general purpose instances would score higher, while instances with a specific focus would score lower

    It would be good if the join-lemmy site could randomly create you an account on one of the instances that qualify. Take that cognitive load away from the user and make that choice for them - and make it clear that they’re free to sign up to any instance they want.

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      18 days ago

      Out of curiosity, how come you don’t recommend your own instance, feddit.org?

      Even if feddit.org is bilingual, the main language is still German. The sidebar text is in German first, !main@feddit.org is name “Haupteingang” and is mostly in German, the Matrix chat is in German, etc. It makes sense, it’s the successor of feddit.de, but probably not ideal for a non-German speaker. My main account is on sopuli.

      By presenting people with “here’s an instance if you’re American, here’s another if you’re European” might support the idea that people will get differenct experiences based on their location.

      Indeed, I guess I’ll add a short “using a server on your continent is better for latency, content is the same”

      I do wonder whether instances should be scored by a few factors and recommended that way?

      I kind of did a similar assesssment a while ago (https://feddit.org/post/5215276/3396746)

      Long story short, there is no ideal generalist instance. If you open the top 20 instances (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/)

      • Lemmy.world is too big
      • Lemm.ee is federated with hexbear and lemmygrad, something that is not very welcoming to new users (see this thread: https://sh.itjust.works/post/28798607/15305964 )
      • sh.itjust.works names contains “shit”, which can deter users
      • lemmy.ca is Canadian-centric
      • feddit.org, as you mentioned, is German-centric, but technically English speaking too
      • dbzer0 federates hexbear
      • programming.dev is topic-centric
      • blahaj is queer-focused
      • discuss.tchncs.de has a difficult name
      • lemmy.sdf.org does not defederate anyone
      • lemmy.zip is federated with hexbear and lemmygrad
      • beehaw is way outdated
      • infosec.pub is topic-centric
      • aussie.zone is country-centric
      • midwest.social is region-centric

      That’s how I came up with sopuli.xyz (neutral name, stable, defederated grad and hexbear) and discuss.online (same)