• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    People are fucking stupid. I don’t think there’s any point in banning TikTok but they’re not wrong when they say it pushes Chinese propaganda and they’re probably not wrong when they say that they’re using it to spy on people.

    So angry TikTok users want to make that worse for themselves out of spite?

    Idiots.

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          Oh. Didn’t see that. Sorry. Anyway, I’m not quite following what you wanted to say with “So angry TikTok users want to make that worse for themselves out of spite?”. What are you proposing here? That people come back to USA owned social networks, because RedNote is “chinese” so it’s bad? Is there even a distinction between the twos? One stoles your data, the other one does the same. On RedNote they censor you, sure, but the same could be said about Meta apps, that for example censor Palestinian content. Anyway… i think i kinda lost the plot. Imma head to bed.

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            1 month ago

            It’s possible to use social networks that are not in the pockets of any governments. Or are even commercial ventures at all. You would be using one right now.

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      Not once, not one single time while using the app, have I ever come across the app pushing Chinese propaganda.

      I understand a lot of you, who have never even tried to give TikTok a chance mind you, don’t fully understand that once YOU curate YOUR algorithm, it becomes 90% only what YOU want to see. Trust me, I used to be one of you. I thought it was the dumbest thing to get on an app to watch people do dumb things, or to dance.

      I had a partner at the time who would send me TikToks, and one day they sent me something that really impressed me. It was a very well done explanation of an animal, I can’t recall which right now. I was VERY impressed by his explanation of this animal I had never even heard of. So, I made one and followed this person.

      I got LOADS of dumb shit thrown my way at first, but I told the algorithm I didn’t want to see these videos, and then… I get 90% of videos targeted towards things I like such as: activism, home improvement tips and tricks, tech related (videos about networking, good alternatives to programs that are ran by shitty people, etc.), skits that I find funny, and others who feel the same way I feel about this world and the way it is currently running. I had always felt like I was one of very very few people who care about these things, but TikTok showed me others who felt the same. People sharing their woes, people actually raising valid points like the Hong Kong protests and even getting millions of views. There is so much more out there than I can type out.

      So, while I understand your face palm moment with this person, it is quite funny to always see these arguments of “TikTok bad” when you haven’t even tried to use it, and are only going off of the dumb people who use it and show/like dumb things. Dumb people post on YouTube, but no one talks about how stupid that is. God forbid an app I’ve never used do that too!

      No hate, as like I said, I was once someone like you. There’s dumb shit on every platform, even here. You could’ve found out that there were plenty of videos that you would enjoy if you had given it a chance.

      And to those who automatically get all patriotic about data and shit, the American social medias are not only worse, but use YOUR data in worse ways than a foreign country can. Not once did TikTok ask me for my location, and only the first time upon opening the app did it request permission for the camera and mic, which I denied, and it never asked again. As far as I know, Facebook/Messenger/Snapchat/Instagram CONSTANTLY want you to give them permissions even if you denied them before.

      I don’t expect anyone here to care, because “TikTok bad”, but it is what it is.

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        I was scrolling rednote today and there are a lot of forms of propaganda.

        I noticed a lot of the videos are geared towards showing how great life is in China versus the US. That seems innocuous but it is a form of propaganda.

        At the end of the day our government is stupid because they aren’t taking care of their citizens. That’s not chinas fault. They are simply attacking our weakness which is poor governance.