• مهما طال الليل@lemm.eeOPM
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    5 days ago

    If Biden pushed for a ceasefire he could say he brought the captives back home. I don’t understand why the Democrats needed to continue the slaughter to win.

    You can’t spin the Democrats’ active participation as helplessness. And if they are as helpless as you claim why should someone who wanted the genocide stopped vote for them?

    I don’t even understand your angle here. Is this outreach? “I am sorry but we have to kill you by the thousands or else Trump will win and make it worse”. It must kill you that there’s a ceasefire now that Trump is president.

    With Ukraine having over 36,000,000 people in contrast to Palestine’s 5,000,000 or Israel’s 10,000,000, Russia’s war crimes there have had a far greater impact than those committed by Israel and Hamas combined.

    You are full of shit. Kiev still has running water and electricity. Gaza has been completely destroyed and had no water or electricity or fuel for over a year.

    Hamas war crimes? Is this something you can seriously say after what Israel did? Do you even recognize that Palestinians have a right to resist? Do you understand that Israel is the occupying military and has no right to defend itself?

    You dehumanize Palestinians and then feel entitled to the Arab and Muslim vote. Fuck off!

    If this is what we will be getting from Democrats, then I don’t see what’s worth saving in US democracy.

    • Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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      6 days ago

      Although it’s clear I won’t convince you and you won’t convince me, to make it clear, I don’t support the actions of the Israeli government, as I’ve stated in my previous comments. I’m just not laser focused on one political issue and would rather have the lesser of two evils than pretend that a far-right candidate like Trump cares more about civil or human rights than Biden or Harris.

      And yes, although the Israeli army has plenty of war criminals that should be sent to The Hague along with Netanyahu for their actions in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria, Hamas was never justified in kidnapping Israeli citizens in the first place. Terrorism is never justified, and terrorists on both sides deserve to be tried for their war crimes, as should be the case in any war.

      Netanyahu could have enacted the ceasefire at any point last year, but deliberately waited to do his part in spreading fascism to the US.

      Trump’s overt racism towards Muslims leaves Palestinians worse off than they’ve ever been, with Trump lifting Biden’s sanctions on Israeli settlers in the West Bank, Netanyahu having Trump’s full support, with the high-tonnage bombs that were blocked from being sent to Israel now being allowed at Trump’s order, and Israel’s renewed intrusion into the West Bank demonstrating that Netanyahu intends to do everything he can to continue the war while claiming to be acting in a humanitarian manner, only stopping in Gaza to make it look like Trump had anything to do with it.

      In terms of Ukraine, as nearly 100,000 Ukrainians (civilians and the armed forces of Ukraine and its breakaway regions) have died as a direct result of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, casting aside the suffering that has occurred there is just as disrespectful as the people that ignore the suffering that has occurred in Palestine.

      Given that choosing Trump over Harris not only leaves Palestine worse off, but harms Ukraine, the environment, abortion rights, LGBTQ rights, anti-discrimination efforts, and countless other issues impacting minority groups, enables further corporate profiteering, and normalizes overt bribery and corruption, anyone who would accept all of that in favor of a delusion that Trump cares for a second about the wellbeing of Palestine is just as deluded as Trump’s MAGA supporters.