Apparently the reason my computer has been taking 2 minutes to boot was a faulty network mount
this is interesting! if i had a two minute boot time, I’d look for ways to figure out what’s going on.
i remember init messages used to be printed to the console, but nowadays all i get is Manjaro branding. anyone know how to get my console messages back from systemd?
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TIL: Systemd is great and despite its usefulness, it is often overlooked due to controversy and the current state of things when it comes to software development. https://tadeubento.com/2023/systemd-hidden-gems-for-a-better-linux/
Thanks for the article, I’ve already spotted a few utilities that can come in useful. I’ve heard a lot of criticism about systemd too, but never really actively used it myself until a few weeks ago. I actually quite like it from what I’ve seen so far.
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Damn I really needed systemd analyzer to debug stuff! Thanks!
How many times a day you guys reboot? 236? Mine takes like 17 seconds… Every week or so…
11s on my laptop which i boot once a day, but it is useful for diagnostics. I had something hanging once during boot and it’s pinpointed it right away.
Laptop gang
Is there a way to do this for shutdown? It’d be great to debug shutdown hangs.
No, there currently isn’t
And it’s not as easy to add actually. Note that systemd only keeps units loaded as long as they are referenced by something else that is loaded, are running, have failed, or have a job queued. That means if a service is terminated at shutdown there’s a very good chance it is GC’ed away pretty quickly. Now, while systemd keeps timestamping info around for services that tell us how long a service was running, took to start or took to shut down all that info is lost the instant the unit is GC’ed away…
Anyone know about a Windows equivalent for my work laptop?
Sysinternals Process Monitor can do boot logging.
You can use the Windows Performance Recorder to capture the boot time and then use Windows Performance Analyzer to view the results. It should also be able to show the results as a timeline.
the only “bottleneck” i currently have is plymouth-quit-wait.service, which takes 3.9 seconds. i can live with that
abrtd.service, 34 seconds…
thanks fedora, very cool
I know you put bottleneck is quotes but just to explain… apparently this service is simply the splash screen that waits on a ready environment. It doesn’t actually delay anything.
Systemd can generate SVGs? Damn thats “bloat” but also unexpectedly fancy
SVGs are just fancy text files after all
If you go far enough, everything is.
But SVGs are one of the few image types that can be human readable and editable
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If you go far enough, everything is.
No, SVG are text files, it’s XML. You can write an SVG file representing a square using only a text editor relatively easily.
The good ol’ Gnome on Wayland on SystemD on GNU on Linux trick
It tells me that my system boots in 7 seconds. That’s pretty cool, considering that it’s installed on a plain old sata SSD.
POST, however…
You can use
systemd-analyze blame
if you want raw numbers:This command prints a list of all running units, ordered by the time they took to initialize. This information may be used to optimize boot-up times.
Good way to see if your systemd also waits 2 minutes for a network connection which already exists but it can’t see it because systemd doesn’t do the networking (lxc containers on proxmox in my case) lol.
Also see systemd-analyze.
Also
systemd-analyze critical-chain
systemd also waits 2 minutes for a network connection which already exists but it can’t see it because systemd doesn’t do the networking
Any way to speed this up? On my system in every boot it waits for network for 30s.
In my case i masked the service because like i said, inside the lxc container there is no networking to do, it’s done on the host (proxmox). Note that disabling the service in my case was not enough since it could be invoked by other services, and then you would have to wait again.
See this for further info and maybe arguments why you shouldn’t do it.
My main offender is something called updatedb.service, whatever that is.
Systemd has so many neat and useful tools that they never tell anyone about :(
Just like Ceph :(
I think you a word in your title.
I wrote a long-ish comment in another thread explaining why lots of people don’t like systemd.
Stuff like this is why people do like systemd.
The massive, un unixy and complex tools allow for very powerful and somewhat knowledge agnostic approaches to all sorts of problems.
One of the nicest things about systemds toolset is that it allows a person who relies on finding the problem and googling it to resolve thing much faster than their alternative, learn what’s going on and figure it out.
I don’t mean that as a pejorative, plenty of computer work is maintenance as opposed to engineering and there’s nothing wrong with that.