Israeli President Isaac Herzog said Palestinian civilians in Gaza were “responsible” for the Saturday attack by Hamas.

“It is an entire nation out there that is responsible. It’s not true this rhetoric about civilians [being] not aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true,” Herzog said Friday. “They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d’état.”

“I agree there are many innocent Palestinians who don’t agree with this, but if you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen and you want to shoot it at me, am I allowed to defend myself? We have to defend ourselves, we have the full right to do so,” he added.

The Israeli president made the comments while calling for over 1 million people in northern Gaza to evacuate in 24 hours. The evacuation was first announced to Gaza residents via leaflets from the Israel Defense Forces.

“Civilians of Gaza City, evacuate south for your own safety and the safety of your families and distance yourself from Hamas terrorists who are using you as human shields,” the leaflets read. “This evacuation is for your own safety. You will be able to return to Gaza City only when another announcement permitting it is made.”

Hamas has told people in Gaza to ignore the evacuation order.

“Israel is removing Palestinians from their homes and lands for a second time, and we have responded to the Zionist crimes by targeting them and Ben Gurion,” Abu Obaida, spokesperson of Hamas’ Al-Qassam Brigades, said. “Displacement and exile are not for us, Israel is carrying out psychological warfare through the threats and their dark history, which shows they carry out crimes and killings as a form of collective punishment.”

The United Nations has called the evacuation “impossible,” due to the large number of people asked to leave the area, according to CNN. John Kirby, the National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications, called the evacuation a “tall order.”

“We understand what they’re trying to do: They’re trying to move civilians out of harm’s way and giving them fair warning. Now it’s a tall order. It’s a million people and very urban, dense environment. It’s already a combat zone. So I don’t think anybody’s underestimating the challenge here of effecting that evacuation,” Kirby told CNN.

The war between Hamas and Israel started on Saturday when Hamas soldiers attacked Israel from Gaza. Hamas killed over 1,000 people and took over 100 hostages in that attack, according to NPR. Hamas has been designated a terrorist organization by many countries including the U.S., Israel and those in the European Union. Since the beginning of the war, Israel says Hamas killed 1,300 people. The Palestinian health ministry reports 1,800 killed in Gaza.

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    If the Palestinian nation is responsible for the attacks on Israel, then the Israeli nation must be responsible for decades of apartheid… Right?

    It can’t be true that civilians weren’t aware of the oppression or not involved, right? They could have risen up and fought against the evil regime that’s committed to apartheid, right?

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      They literally voted for it and elected Bibi, and that’s after he boasted about how he was funding Hamas as a wedge tactic.

      Israelis literally voted for this.

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        insert family guy skin color meme

        Just another fine example of whiter people getting their way at the expense of darker ones.

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      Yeah, it’s funny but a nation need not be political:

      A nation is a large type of social organization where a collective identity has emerged from a combination of shared features across a given population, such as language, history, ethnicity, culture, territory or society. Some nations are constructed around ethnicity (see ethnic nationalism) while others are bound by political constitutions (see civic nationalism and multiculturalism).

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation

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    You heard him, 1 million children are responsible for the attack. Fuck Israel. Israelis are the ones responsible for the attack. You reap what you sow.

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    That last name with what is being said is like history repeating it self ironically.

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    Israel has already murdered an estimated 500 children “defending themselves”, in the past week.

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    Israel is a genocidal, white supremacist apartheid state. They have shown multiple times that they have no interest in peace and only in subjugation. The country needs to be dismantled and a single state solution enacted.

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      If we go by the west’s meterstick, the only time violations of human rights even get recognized, it’s when enemies of the FIVE-EYES regime commit them. Allied human rights violations are pencil-whipped and rubber-stamped as ‘necessary evils’.

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    This is why they have meltdowns when you question them about civilian deaths. They don’t believe in the concept.

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      Which makes it ten times ‘funnier’ when these liberal peckerwoods in the West want to pearl-clutch when we stop considering IDF reserve and ex-IDF as civilians in response. They’re all trained as part of a conscription state; so I don’t see any civilians in Israel except the children. Like I’ve been saying-- how these mayonoids react to Palestine and its struggle directly informs how they’ll respond when the Black community has proper leaders again, instead of these sellout “Black capitalist” Toms, or the abject misleaders in the Congressional Black Caucus. What we’re seeing Israel do in Palestine is a direct 1:1 with what Amerika did to the Natives and the Afrikans they stole.

      These FIVE-EYES crackers fundamentally do not care about liberation. They just want revenge on those that responded logically to invader settler-colonials genociding them left and right to make room for themselves; and the threatened-into-compliance silence of those watching. Just like what the west is doing to Haiti, just like what they’re doing to Cuba. They take bloody, brutal revenge on those who deny them.

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    I’m reminded of a comment I once read on a wiki page about…My Lai I believe (a page with some relation to war crimes, or a specific war crime, in Vietnam)? There was a (general?) who was explaining why they felt fine killing civilians; he said you could be passing by some lady, step on a mine and die, and that she’s guilty because she knew it was there and said nothing.

    Not bad enough you invaded their country, but you expect them to bend over backwards and make invading them easier?

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    They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime

    Thats what theyve been doing. Rising up against Netanyahu’s evil regime.

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    Unpopular opinion. Wouldn’t a one state be a better solution. Like most of other developed nations that are multi cultural? After 5 or 6 generations they would all identify as one nation with different backgrounds. It definitely works in modern nations now.

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      Wouldn’t a one state be a better solution.

      Pretty much, yes. It’s only an unpopular opinion amongst white supremacists and pro-colonialists.

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      It probably would have led to the best outcome if it had been one state from the start, when Israel was established. God knows if it’d work now.

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      let me put it this way: I’m forced to live in a ‘one-state solution’ with the descendants of my lineage’s oppressors, and I fuckin hate it. I wouldn’t condemn the Palestinians like that. Especially because if we assume Israel would follow the lead of its big brother in this hypothetical “One State” scenario, then the tensions between Israeli and Palestinian would never end up solved, constantly used as a political football for misleader Palestinians to eventually work their way into the government, and utterly shut down the revolutionary potential of the oppressed while lending legitimacy to the settler project.

      That’s a condemnation of the Palestinian people just as surely as the all-out genocide Israel currently wages. The only difference is the scale of time.

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        I think part of that solution would be laws and regulations to prevent discrimination.

        It’s not impossible.

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          Those laws never work as they’re expected to. When’s the last time you heard about a settler actually following anti-discrimination laws or regs, or the last time you heard a settler actually punished for breaking those laws and regs? You sound naive.

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            You’re right. There’s a law of the universe that says it’s physically impossible for a nation to follow it’s own anti-discrimination laws.

            There’s nothing that can be done to change it. No matter how much time passes or how much we may learn, it will remain an absolute fact.

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              confirmed.

              If you’re gonna really sit there and tell me you think that ethnic cleansers, settlers, and colonizers will follow the spirit of anti-discrimination laws, as opposed to continuing to marginalize, oppress, and brutalize the people they’ve made second-class or worse, you’re showing just how crackerish you really are. If you had any kind of true sight of this world, you’d see how hopelessly, pitifully naive such an ideal is-- and I have a lake to sell you in the center of fuckin Nevada.