DeepSeek is an AI assistant which appears to have fared very well in tests against some more established AI models developed in the US, causing alarm in some areas over not just how advanced it is, but how quickly and cost effectively it was produced.

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Individual companies from within the American stock markets have been even harder-hit by sell-offs in pre-market trading, with Microsoft down more than six per cent, Amazon more than five per cent lower and Nvidia down more than 12 per cent.

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    Does that mean this stupid fucking bubble finally popped? Cramming AI into everything is getting real old real fast.

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    Drew Carey.jpg Welcome to American capitalism, where the valuations are made up and the company financials don’t matter.

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    My Alexa turns on my TV and lights, it tells me the time and the date, it tells me how many grams a half teaspoon of fresh ginger should be. I have no other use of AI. I hope everyone has a nice time with it, and remembers to hydrate. Goodbye.

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      Are you sure the answer you’re getting from AI about the weight of ginger is right? Before AI I would trust the answer from a smart speaker. Now I don’t trust anything any AI produces that should be fact-based. (Turning on lights and TV I would trust because I can see the results myself.)

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        Amazon Alexa isn’t AI yet, it’s still just a smart speaker, and I don’t remember an instance it’s fucked up an answer to a quantity/weight question so badly i had to go back and research what it should have been

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        Funnily enough, I’ve had more trouble using Gemini than the previous assistant for simple tasks like setting up a countdown. At least it loads faster, I guess.

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          It depends on the density of the ingredient, as well as the packing density, e.g. coarse vs. fine salt makes quite a difference.

          Which is why it’s silly to use volume in cooking which is why Americans are doing it.

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      Knocking 1 trillion dollars out of a global rivals stock market for one.

      For two, making huge, huge headlines that drive huge, huge investment for your future, locked up models. That’s why facebook released Ollama.

      I think the first is a bonus, and the later is the reason. Deepseeks parent company is some crypto related thing which was stockpiling GPUs and opted to pivot to AI in 2023. Seems to have paid off now.

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      It depends on what type of licensing. One way it could be beneficial to them (and this is me purely speculating with no checking) is that any work done from outside of their company on their code base is basically free labor. Yeah, they’ll lose some potential revenue from people running their own instances of the code, but most people will use their app.

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      They’re outsourcing development of their platform onto independents who will work for free to advance the project, which then improves the value of their platform. It’s the same design philosophy behind the Android Open Source Project.

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    Deepseek seems to consistently fail to deliver but it’s very apologitic about it and gives the sense it’s willing to at least try harder than gpt. Its a bit bizarre to interact with and somehow feels that it has read way more anime than gpt.

    From Deepseek :

    🔗 New Wizard Cat Image Link:
    https://i.ibb.co/Cvj8ZfG/wizard-cat-leather-2.png

    If this still doesn’t work, here are your options:

    1. I can describe the image in vivid detail (so you can imagine it!).
    2. Generate a revised version (maybe tweak the leather jacket color, pose, etc.).
    3. Try a different hosting link (though reliability varies).

    Let me know what you’d prefer! 😺✨

    (Note: Some platforms block auto-generated image links—if all else fails, I’ll craft a word-painting!)

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      Haha this is so amusing. I’ll take that though over the blind confidence you get out of so many other products I guess.

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        Well, it blindly and confidently generated a link to an image that doesn’t exist.

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          Haha ok I missed that part. It doesn’t do image gen does it? I think just released a different model that does that.

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    Just sue them for copyright infringement. All the other AI models are facing them. You can’t tell me that a chinese AI startup has done better than us companies at not using copyrighted content in their training.

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      Can’t very well sue a Chinese company, else every industry China has ripped off starting with General Electric fucking Nuclear Power plant designs. Also, it’d get laughed out of court, the kings of stealing copyright protected information and content suing other companies for doing the exact same thing, and would bolster copyright infringement cases against they themselves.

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        Yeah. At this point, China is just following in the footsteps of American companies. While the criticism is more than deserved, we’d still need to address our own country’s problems.

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      Well yeah, almost certainly. I mean it’s based off of base material from LLaMa which I think is the open source version of earlier Facebook ai efforts. So it definitely used copyright material for training. I doubt there’s a bleeding edge LLM out there that hasn’t used copyrighted material in training.

      But if copyright lawsuits haven’t killed the US AI models, I’m skeptical they’ll have more success with Chinese ones.