• Holzkohlen@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    I’d be shocked if Edge installed itself and take over Firefox data in my linux install. Impressed, but also very shocked.

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      1 year ago

      I have found a lot of websites over the last few months acting up if I’m using Firefox.

      I have chrome for work and if I switch they work flawlessly. It’s small things like menus not expanding or elements not loading.

      There’s a push on unifying browsers.

      I’ve been Firefox and duckduckgo for years and it’s getting a bit annoying. Obviously the trade off is worth it I do not want the big tech products but finding good alternatives is getting hard.

      DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

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          1 year ago

          I couldn’t submit a support ticket for id.me (the IRS’ stupid commercial partner for Identity verification) when using Firefox, the submit button literally did not work. Worked fine when switching to edge (blegh).

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          I can think of 2 websites that didn’t work right over the past 10 Yeats. Both were credit card payment sites and just had weird issues like couldn’t hit the submit button. I figured it out and just used edge for them. I never found any site that I use often that has issues yet.

          • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            1 year ago

            “I can think of”

            no proof

            No personal stuff obviously but nobody actually has proof

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              1 year ago

              Samsung bill pay which is a tdbank site and joss and main furniture credit payment site… didn’t think I had to list them to be taken seriously. Plus I am for Firefox, it’s all I have used for 15 years now.

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          I use Firefox on Linux and FreeBSD for my daily driver.

          I was not able to book flights on Thai airways website 6 months ago until I loaded it in chrome/chromium instead.

          It’s really really rare imo but that’s one example in recent history.

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            1 year ago

            That sounds more like an issue with them using some proprietary browser bullshit than a problem with Firefox.

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              1 year ago

              But what, practically, is the difference? If more and more websites use shit that only works in Chrome or Chromium based browsers, the effect is the same. The web doesn’t work as well for Firefox users.

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                One is a browser following web standards and the other is a shitty company adding non-standards based development features intended to lock users into there browsers.

                It was shitty when Microsoft did the non-standard features to lock in with Internet Exporer and it is shitty that Chrome does it now.

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    1 year ago

    There’s a word for software that does actions without the user’s permission or knowledge.

    That word is MALWARE

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    1 year ago

    Edge re-installing itself after I’ve manually taken ownership of its files and purged them from the system 6 fucking times is what’s going to finally drive me to abandon windows and go full linux.

    I just haven’t had the time or energy to rebuild my software stack on a still pretty new to me OS. (emby, the Arrs, Ombi, nginx, and more)

    I setup a debian machine a while ago and have been slowly trying to get used to it while migrating a few things, but It’s hard when windows is so engrained in most of what I’ve done on pc.

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      Were you on a Windows Pro license and did you tried using group policy settings?

      I keep hearing people being frustrated that low level solutions don’t work, but I’ve not heard of anyone having these issues who has used the official tools Microsoft provides for Windows sysadmins (and power users) to actually manage this sort of thing.


      I get that logically, it shouldn’t matter whether you put a sign up telling Edge to fuck off when you’ve bulldozed it down six times, but Windows sees that it’s gone and your settings (by default with no group policy config) indicate it shouldn’t be gone, so it “helpfully” rebuilds it.

      Power users are not their market for normal home licenses. Those are for the people who don’t know the difference between Edge and Chrome and need protection from making dumb mistakes like deleting Edge and ending up without any web browser. Unfortunately, those are the grand majority of computer users, and it makes good business sense to take advantage of “just helping” to provide a locked down ecosystem and push your software on power users who don’t know the management options available.


      Windows doesn’t do a good job advertising these features, and has made them harder to find by getting rid of a lot of their old non-cloud sysadmin training courses, because it doesn’t help them make money. But by no means are these options non-existent.


      They offer a Windows version for power users. It’s the Pro license, and it doesn’t cost significantly more if you’re buying a cheap “OEM” key.

      If you want to make Windows work for you, look at the tools they have for on premises (non-cloud) Windows system administration in small companies.

      KMS (key media server) is one way to manage Windows license keys for multiple machines in a domain. KMSpico emulates that setup on a single machine (no server needed), allowing safe spoofing of whatever level Windows license you want, using the same systems and technique meant for actual sysadmins. Last I knew, that was the safest way to spoof a license if you don’t have the ~$15 for one.

      Group policy is one of a few ways to push consistent Windows configuration and settings to multiple machines in a domain. It is also an option for managing settings on individual Pro licensed Windows machines. Most of the time when you find weird registry key changes online to enable/disable Windows features, those are part of what Group Policy changes when you use it to disable a feature the proper way. Windows respects group policy options through updates, and releases update to group policy templates as needed. They don’t want to fuck with their big business clients that can actually hurt their bottom line, so they keep those working.

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        I do have a pro license (for RDP), but I’m not familiar with the group policy editor. Wasn’t aware it could disable Edge. I’ll have to explore that more. It’s rather absurd a user has to go to those lengths to keep data they’ve deleted, deleted.

        Still gonna move to linux. Been a long time coming.

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      I moved to Fedora (KDE Plasma) about a year ago. I had researched alternatives for all I needed.

      I installed it on a new machine and kept an old windows machine running.

      It took a month or so to get things how I liked.

      I miss some things in Windows but found some real time saving features in linux, on the whole I am better off.

      And I feel a whole lot safer.

      • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        Side question:

        Know a good place I can learn linux user/group/permission management?

        I don’t understand it well enough so I do a stupid amount of things as root…

        • 4am@lemm.ee
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          A good start is using something like sudo rather than logging in as root.

          sudo gives your command root permission when it runs. That way you can delete the password from the root account and it can’t be logged in with. sudo will ask for YOUR password and then check if you have permissions to elevate your command to root level.

          In a simple setup, you can just use for anything you would normally do as root.

          This can protect you from mistakes too, when running commands that you’ve mistyped. For example, if you want to do “rm -rf ./*” to delete all files in the current directory, but you forget the dot (period); if you’re at a root prompt, you just deleted your entire filesystem. If you’re not, then you get a permission error.

          • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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            1 year ago

            How do I manage what users can use sudo?

            One issue is trying to create a user to run services under, but not knowing how to give it permission to access what it needs (while also not entirely sure what it should/shouldn’t have permissions for).

            Or just generally managing file permissions. I understand using chmod in a very basic capacity with a few letter arguments like +r, but then you toss in numbers (chmod 777, wut?) and I get lost.

            • 4am@lemm.ee
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              In addition to what other posters said, some distros allow you to add a user to the “sudo” group (as a secondary group assignment; don’t make it their primary) to allow them sudo access.

              Edit your /ect/sudoers file using visudo