• GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 days ago

    We agree. We have about 3 years until the next presidential election cycle, maybe, and we either need to challenge the Democratic party, or improve it.

    Instead of pessimism, do you have any ideas?

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      14 days ago

      We’ve been telling them to move further left than further center for years, and yet they wonder why they keep losing elections.

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        14 days ago

        There’s a lot of reasons they’re losing election. One of the least of which is that they are too far right.

        Full disclosure I am anarchist/anarco communist. Yes democrats should move left. But it isn’t some sort of Panacea that would see them suddenly start winning elections regularly. Democrats moving left would see a lot of the party’s funding evaporated. Which on one hand would be good. Because a lot of that funding is coming from some of the worst people. But on the other hand. Campaigns have been made very expensive. It would put Democrats at a distinct disadvantage, and see them losing just as much if not more than they already are. Without that money. Yet it is still the lazy go to answer.

        The truth is Democrats don’t even need to move left one iota to start winning again. All it needs to happen is for us to stop leaving everything to National leadership. Which is bought and owned. Completely disconnected from all constituency other than the donors. We need to revitalize state democratic parties. Have them take leadership back.

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        14 days ago

        1000%, let’s encourage people to vote in democratic primaries anytime we see this “both sides” sentiment. Thank you!

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          im 100% onboard to get rid of the democrats but only once the republicans are gone or insignificant. If an alternative party starts winning elections I will take that into account to but right now and pretty much since 2000 not having republicans is my main focus as well as democratic primaries. One thing is I don’t think its good to vote for the democrat that can win. I vote the primaries based on who I actually want in the roll.

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            14 days ago

            I agree on every point, though I do feel like alternative parties to the Democrats can be successful in local and state elections, much like how the tea party has found some successes in more local politics. And I would say if locally people start successfully voting in more progressive alternatives, it will result in irrefutable proof that progressive policies are the winning move.

            But, that starts local. It starts small, not big. And it starts where politicians impact you the most, your local community.

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              I actually did this more before but the republicans have just infiltrated to much so even with local I have to vote anti republican. I live in a liberal state but a sorta conservative area (old school conservatives that are aghast at maga so its pretty much swung democrat but its risky to vote 3rd party. successfully fought of maga crazies trying to get into school boards and such.)