• captain_oni@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Multi-account containers + tab groups would make Firefox the perfect browser for me, and I wouldn’t be able to use anything else.

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      11 months ago

      Multi-account containers are almost indispensable for developers. As for tab groups, I am currently using an add-on to manage them, but having a native feature would be very cool.

      • Fishytricks@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        I tried using SimpleTabGroups and I didn’t understand how to use it. Perhaps i’m coming from using Safari instead. Regardless, firefox is a very good browser and i’m using it on my PC!

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          11 months ago

          You have the extension button, a tab context menu (right clicking on a tab) and thats it.

          The extension can do a lot, but basically you go to the extension icon in the extension area and create groups, you click on the group and all other tabs are hidden away. Then you open tabs here, you can right click on a tab to move between groups and also set the tabs favicon (the small icon) as the tab group icon.

          You click in the menu on another group and the current tabs are hidden and you move there.

          It can also work with container tabs (isolated cookies) so allow to use multiple accounts, and I think the hidden tabs are frozen, taking less RAM and CPU

  • Zink@pawb.social
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    11 months ago

    I never really found a use for this. Do people really need so many tabs open they have to sort them?

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      11 months ago

      It may be a little niche, but I’d bet plenty of people will use it. I’m in the middle of a personal research project, and it would make things so much easier for me. I’m currently grouping my tabs by having multiple windows open…

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        11 months ago

        I mentioned it in my reply to this comment, but Simple Tab Groups is a pretty solid alternative in Firefox.

        Its not quite as elegant as the built-in Chrome ones, but it does make it easy to have a bunch of groups sorted out that you can flip between.

    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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      11 months ago

      Yeah me neither.

      ITT it kinda looks like people just leave tabs open as a way to remember where something is, or even as a way to remember that something needs their attention.

      There are much better ways, but everyone needs to do their own thing I guess.

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        11 months ago

        Just did a rough estimate and I have approximately 200 tabs currently open in Firefox on my work laptop.

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          11 months ago

          Why? Bookmarks exist. Are you trying to make sure all your ram stays full or what?

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            11 months ago

            Bookmarks exist

            Bookmarks also need a huge redesign, and not only with FF.

            That is why services like Pocket and reading lists exist… Heck, I have been using Evernote as a bookmark replacement for many years (and now I need to find a replacement for it, Sadly).

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              11 months ago

              Yeah, I think you’re right, but open tabs are sort of similar, they just make using your computer slower and tabs harder to find at a certain point. I say this and I have 32 GB of RAM. I find it noticeably slower if I have like 30 tabs open.

              And yeah 5 characters isn’t enough for me to know what that open tab is. I have watched people use tabs like that, and no one seems to actually deal with it well. It always seems to be a struggle that they just cope with. Clicking 17 times to find a tab isn’t making anyone’s life easier.

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                11 months ago

                And yeah 5 characters isn’t enough for me to know what that open tab is. I have watched people use tabs like that, and no one seems to actually deal with it well. It always seems to be a struggle that they just cope with. Clicking 17 times to find a tab isn’t making anyone’s life easier.

                That is only because stock FF tab management today is trash.

                I don’t like Chrome’s too much better, but for me Safari having an integrated Simple Tab Groups feature was a must have feature.

                Now with these new changes can actually help to manage this, and it seems that it won’t affect FF usage at all, so one could keep using TST or Sidebery if they wanted to, for a more serious tab management.

                Also, I only have 16 GBs of RAM, but I have yet to feel my MacBook Pro any slower because of FF, especially when FF is able to sleep tabs or if you restart it manually.

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                  11 months ago

                  I am confused by most of what you’re saying… what the acronyms are, how safari come into play (talk about an absolute trash browser)…

                  You do you, but I’ll probably never think opening a bunch of tabs is helpful. Making it easier to do so is enabling bad behavior. I’ll probably use it, and at times stress myself out because even with a nicer UI I’ll be struggling to find something with 42 tabs open.

                  It’s like keeping a messy and cluttered desk. Some people are going to do that and say they can find everything, but 9 times out of 10 if you watch them work you can tell it makes life a little more difficult, they’re just coping with it because they’d rather not straighten up as often as others.

    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      No not really a need at all, just an alternative to bookmarks imo. Having more than ~ 20 tabs open is a very inefficient way to work imo.

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    11 months ago

    🎶You put the feature in, you take the feature out, you put the feature in and shake it all about. 🎶

    I’ve been using the Panorama Tab Groups add-on for years, which (as I recall) is pretty similar to the native stuff they inexplicably removed back in the day. It’s currently unmaintained and a little janky in spots but perfectly usable.

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      11 months ago

      It’s nothing like that. The extension you linked is about maintaining separate browser histories and cookie sets, whereas what this post is about is just a new way to organize and manage tabs themselves.

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    11 months ago

    Right… I use multiple browser windows as tab groups. Tried tree tabs, but since I keep one window per topic I rarely get enough tabs open to need them.

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      I tried that, but eventually they just all blended so that now I’ve got three different windows with 50 of the same tabs open. Groups can have labels so that I can see which group is which.

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    11 months ago

    Finally. Have made the switch over to Firefox a few months ago and this almost made me switch back. I swap context a lot at work / home so being able to group (and minimize said group) tabs helps a lot.

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        11 months ago

        They said nothing about that functionality, but yes it is nice for a completely different use case.

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      11 months ago

      Firefox has profiles, so you can further separate your work browsing from personal browsing. Each profile acts like a separate instance with it’s own history, bookmarks, addons, everything…

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          11 months ago

          No, and everyone keeps recommending extensions and hacky workarounds. Wish Mozilla would gets its head out of its ass and just add a damn button that runs the firefox -p [profile] command in the browser itself so we wouldn’t need to use keep a desktop shortcut instead.

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    11 months ago

    i started using tree style tabs which was absolutely life changing. best computer memory i’ve had in years, it’s a far more logical and space-friendly way to keep lots of tabs open and still be able to read the titles. i feel like specifically grouping adds too much overhead - i have to think about which group to put each into, and think (even a little bit) about where to find it later