• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          I’m not making shit up, as the letter that OP posted plainly shows. I made no claim that he stopped believing in Zionism as a concept, only that he stopped supporting the actual Zionists in Israel who were ethnically cleansing Palestine in 1948. And if he’d actually actually drafted that supposed 1955 speech as Israel claims, then I’d say that he was no Einstein. That sounds like some hasbara to me.

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              9 months ago

              You’re claiming that draft, that I had to tell you about, which was written 7 years after the establishment of the state of Israel (when it was barely a functioning state) is Hasbara?

              I’m not claiming that the draft speech and its contents are hasbara, only that I suspect they might be, and that if they aren’t, then I think less of Einstein if he wrote that, “the Arab hostility […] is the root cause of the tension,” because I think the root cause is Western settler-colonialism.

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      9 months ago

      The Haganah could disavow the Irgun (and the Stern Gang) with the same credibility that the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp could disavow Hezbollah.

      Menachem Begin, who led Irgun also founded Likud and as the sixth Prime Minister of Israel was in command of the IDF . So yes, many people (including the US) considered Irgun a terrorist organization, that didn’t put it and it’s leaders outside the mainstream of Israeli military, politics, or government. Besides, it’s crimes during the Mandate and Nakba always served the Zionist cause, and even if the Haganah or “Consultancy” didn’t approve or order their actions, they were happy to take the benefit, and occasionally the credit.