Getting their base energized and angry about the current situation is doing a lot more than introducing a bill that has a 0.00% chance of getting passed. The chances of them talking to the high ranking party officials and getting them to reverse course probably has the same chance of success.
It helps to use your brain to actually think about the outcomes of actions. On the off chance that I’m just being an asshole, please let me know what is a better use of their time.
If another four years of Trump and the threat of project 2025 wasn’t enough to make these people do the bare minimum it would have taken to stop it, I honestly don’t see how a few empowered speeches will do more than jack-shit to motivate them.
I wish it were different, but we’re taking about a group of people who have a proven track record of stopping short of walking the walk.
You’re right it is much better for them to give up.
Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Or the ok, or the mildly evil in this case.
What are you doing besides uselessly bitching and moaning about how others aren’t doing enough. Grow up, shit will never be perfect in the real world and we are on the edge of a fascist regime coup. Even if Bernie doesn’t do shit, getting that many people together is still a net positive compared to him voting on stuff or talking to people or introducing bills that will never pass just so morons think he is doing something better than rallies.
Getting large groups of people together repeatedly is the most important thing that can happen right now. Quit bitching and fucking do something.
lol… again. Gathering people in large groups is not an action. It’s just accumulation. VOTING is an action.
No mountain was moved moved because a bunch of people gathered at is base and shouted at it.
And I find it ironic that the advice you’re suggesting is the exact same thing I see presented to the far left/progressive do-nothings that sit at home and watch everyone else try and cast their votes to save their sorry asses, or wait until shit gets this bad before they mobilize into larger clusters of do-nothings to stand around and smugly criticize everyone that warned them this would fucking happen.
They helped make the bed. They can lie in it with the rest of us that didn’t.
The real irony is that currently there are not even local elections to be had where I am. I’m case you are new at voting, it’s not continuous. Saying the only action is voting is… Well if you haven’t gotten the point by now you are not going to.
I vote. I don’t just vote every 4 years either, and that didn’t just start with Trump. If you don’t understand that more action is required than just voting at this point you need to look up from whatever you have your head stuck in. We are already in uncharted territory and while the rallies are not perfect, they are better than doing nothing and sitting on your hands until the next election.
“They helped make the bed. They can lie in it with the rest of us that didn’t.”
Yes there are a lot of dumb fucks who seriously fucked up the election, and yeah they were wrong on so many levels. This isn’t about being right, or having superior principals. This is actually about survival. The collapse and changes will be violent, and we are so fucking close to changes you can’t even imagine. So grow up, stop complaining about how other people didn’t do enough. It is just a childishly small thing to get hung up on.
DO SOMETHING. Protect yourself, your family, your friends and those that can’t protect themselves.
Cool. So what policy changes did they enact? None? Then who gives a fuck?
Action, not words, AOC. Action, not words, Bernie. Fucking stfu and DO something.
Getting their base energized and angry about the current situation is doing a lot more than introducing a bill that has a 0.00% chance of getting passed. The chances of them talking to the high ranking party officials and getting them to reverse course probably has the same chance of success.
It helps to use your brain to actually think about the outcomes of actions. On the off chance that I’m just being an asshole, please let me know what is a better use of their time.
If another four years of Trump and the threat of project 2025 wasn’t enough to make these people do the bare minimum it would have taken to stop it, I honestly don’t see how a few empowered speeches will do more than jack-shit to motivate them.
I wish it were different, but we’re taking about a group of people who have a proven track record of stopping short of walking the walk.
You’re right it is much better for them to give up.
Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Or the ok, or the mildly evil in this case.
What are you doing besides uselessly bitching and moaning about how others aren’t doing enough. Grow up, shit will never be perfect in the real world and we are on the edge of a fascist regime coup. Even if Bernie doesn’t do shit, getting that many people together is still a net positive compared to him voting on stuff or talking to people or introducing bills that will never pass just so morons think he is doing something better than rallies.
Getting large groups of people together repeatedly is the most important thing that can happen right now. Quit bitching and fucking do something.
lol… again. Gathering people in large groups is not an action. It’s just accumulation. VOTING is an action.
No mountain was moved moved because a bunch of people gathered at is base and shouted at it.
And I find it ironic that the advice you’re suggesting is the exact same thing I see presented to the far left/progressive do-nothings that sit at home and watch everyone else try and cast their votes to save their sorry asses, or wait until shit gets this bad before they mobilize into larger clusters of do-nothings to stand around and smugly criticize everyone that warned them this would fucking happen.
They helped make the bed. They can lie in it with the rest of us that didn’t.
The real irony is that currently there are not even local elections to be had where I am. I’m case you are new at voting, it’s not continuous. Saying the only action is voting is… Well if you haven’t gotten the point by now you are not going to.
I vote. I don’t just vote every 4 years either, and that didn’t just start with Trump. If you don’t understand that more action is required than just voting at this point you need to look up from whatever you have your head stuck in. We are already in uncharted territory and while the rallies are not perfect, they are better than doing nothing and sitting on your hands until the next election.
“They helped make the bed. They can lie in it with the rest of us that didn’t.”
Yes there are a lot of dumb fucks who seriously fucked up the election, and yeah they were wrong on so many levels. This isn’t about being right, or having superior principals. This is actually about survival. The collapse and changes will be violent, and we are so fucking close to changes you can’t even imagine. So grow up, stop complaining about how other people didn’t do enough. It is just a childishly small thing to get hung up on.
DO SOMETHING. Protect yourself, your family, your friends and those that can’t protect themselves.
“introducing a bill that has a 0.00% chance of getting passed” is Bernie’s function.
So he can look like the real leftist who is really trying.
In this environment … bipartisan politics haven’t played a meaningful role in national US government since … Oh. George W Bush, maybe.