Winston and Seymour are in competition to see which one can be the Trump of NZ.
New Zealand better shut that shit down fast and ruthlessly.
I mean, they don’t have to, but boy will they be happy if they do.
I am afraid they are not going to. The land of sheep and all that.
Holy fuck these people are cancer.
The government needs to figure out how to crack down on this algo driven bot rot ASAP otherwise democracies are all going to fall.
We need to cut Russia off the internet completely is what we need to do.
The argument has always been that then the people in that country will never know the truth and rise up against their dictator. I’m not sure how much water that argument holds today given their current war…
That’s like a paranoid schizophrenic being given a gun so they can feel safe.
Actually no, that’s like Pesistratus:
Around the year 561 BC, Herodotus writes how Pisistratus intentionally wounded himself and his mules, asking the Athenian people to provide bodyguards for protection and reminding them of his prior accomplishments, including the port capture of Nisaea. Pisistratus had driven his chariot into the agora or marketplace of Athens, claiming he had been wounded by his enemies outside of town, and thus, the people of Athens selected some of their men to function as a bodyguard, armed with clubs rather than spears, for him. Previously, he had assumed control of the Hyperakrioi, which was not an aristocratic group like the other two Athens factions, by promoting his democratic program and securing a mutual agreement with the members or demos of the faction. By obtaining support from this vast number of the poorer population and receiving the protection of bodyguards, he was able to overrun and seize the Acropolis as well as grasp the reins of the government. The Athenians were open to a tyranny similar to that under Solon, who previously had been offered the tyranny of Athens but declined, and in the early part of the Archaic Age, the rivalries among the aristocratic clans was fierce, making a single-ruler tyranny an attractive option, with the promise of possible stability and internal peace, and Pisistratus’ ruse won him further prominence. With the Acropolis in his possession and with the support of his bodyguard, he declared himself tyrant.
tf NZ, are you not learning anything from the fascist states? Get your shit together!
For context, this guy leads a party that is part of a coalition in government at the moment. However, they only got 6% of the vote. He/they (the guy/the party but I find it amusing given the context that I could have been referring to his pronouns) is certainly not representative of the country as a whole.
More concerning is that the other parties in the coalition are also trying their best to mimic Trump.
I don’t know how accurate it is to say he doesn’t represent the country as a whole. At a minimum that phrasing is misleading.
no person represents the country as a whole but he is in government and that government got the votes of the majority of the people who voted. That’s significant.
As you said nothing he said isn’t aligned with ACT or National positions and certainly nobody else in government has rebuked him.
Trumpism and MAGA has arrived in NZ and is running the country. If you are not alarmed you should be.
When all your policies fail the only thing left to engage your voters is the culture war.
Peters has made a career out of courting the dumbest 5-10% of kiwis for at least the last 30 years. “Woke” is just his latest ill-defined hobby-horse to get his name in the paper.
He calls to end “DEI” while his party says they support Diversity & Inclusion. He believes in nothing.
Another beautiful country about to be ruined by NAZIs.
Russian funded and supported nazis.
It’s not all Russia, the “tax payers union” (not a union) is funded by the Atlas network which is American
Christ I knew they had their hooks into you NZ but I didn’t think it was that bad already.
woof. Y’all need to take out the trash pronto.
And that means no Xitter, no facebook, no Instacrap. Anyone using those things is abetting the destruction of all that is good.
Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed are wonderful things. Enjoy those.
Yes, fine, also bluesky I guess. I dunno.
There’s some fairly large amount of NZers that interact on the daily (some on the hourly) with Facebook. I dip in from time to time to read what people are saying just to try to keep some perspective on why it seems so many of my fellow citizens have such strange ideas.
For the most part replies and discussion on just about any topic are full of false assumptions, minimal facts, naked and unquestioned bias (x is always bad no matter what, y always good etc) and then the usual racism, misogyny and nastiness. This sort of crap from Winston appeals to that sort of folk, really he’s just targetting a little lower and more broadly than his usual tactic of talking to the 70+ old white racists.
I think you are taking some copium if you think this kind of rhetoric only appeals to 70+ old white racists.
There are hundreds of thousands of younger racists who also love this message.
That’s what im saying; the old plain white racists are dying off, so he’s pivoting to outrage amongst young males instead.
That’s a rich field to mine in NZ.
There’s some fairly large amount of NZers that interact on the daily (some on the hourly) with Facebook.
I have no doubt. This will mean the utter victory of the right wing fascists, backed by broligarch billionaire Peter Thiel, et. al.
It’s that simple. It’s been tried-and-true since at least 2016. Kill it with fire.
What a total knob.
Aw man what the fuck really? Come on guys. I was thinking of bailing out to Middle Earth, and now this??? Gotta take it off the list now :(
These guys are so unpopular, it is looking likely that we will have the first one term government for a very long time.
They have fucked up the economy really badly, they are trying to accelerate privatization of state assets (roading, education etc…) which is deeply unpopular, most kiwis think the selling of the power companies, banks and insurance companies in the past were mistakes.
That’s the only thing that’ll potentially save us - just how bad they are at running the economy. But you have to keep an eye on polling which still shows the majority of our voters trust National on the economy more than Labour.
Plus Act & National have a huge amount of money from the real estate & landlord grifters who are going to dump it in yet again to fight against CGT which Labour will have to go with some form of to keep their own voters on side.
