Summary
Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez drew 34,000 people to a rally in Denver and 11,000 in Greeley as part of their “Fighting Oligarchy Tour.”
They advocated progressive policies and condemned billionaire influence in politics, with Sanders urging resistance to “Trumpism” and oligarchy.
Attendees expressed frustration over economic inequality and corporate influence.
Critics, including Republican Reps. Gabe Evans and Lauren Boebert, dismissed their message as extreme and anti-energy.
Sanders and AOC pledged continued efforts to advance progressive change nationwide.
Yeah you can have your rallies and rah rah rah. But, is this going to inspire hope come mid-terms? Can’t tell.
You’re right, we should definitely not try anything. 🤷♂️
Well, the current efforts are few and lacking.
I think the vast majority of people who participate in American politics online discussion simply do not grasp or understand how to react. Or even what happened to cause this decline. And those that do have very few leaders or organizations or networks to draw support.
This leaves most people who want to help floundering and feeling helpless.
That look the deer had before it’s hit by that truck? This is where the average participant is. And I’m not sure that this is the best it can get or not.
Too much is missing. And all the best will in the world, and all the prettiest speeches, rants, essays , comments and posts cannot will it into existence. It has to grow on its own. And that takes time we may not have
What do you suggest as the first one to three steps to get started on not being the paralyzed deer? You’ve identified the problem, do you have wisdom to share on actionable tasks one can do to get started? You’re not wrong about identifying ignorance…unfortunately, ignorance is self-reinforcing without effective training and education.
Unfortunately I am clueless.
My own experience comes from doing grassroots in Texas, years ago. I saw how tentative and fragile that was.
Then , I tried to educate people about the value of paper ballots in Texas. And it gave me insight about how hard things can be to change ( understatement there).
I was incredibly inspired by the Ukrainian revolution ten years ago. And use that to see why things break here. Eventually I put it down to the collapse of local politics and Ukrainians have healthier social ties on average.
But a builder of local neighborhoods I am not, nor am I a good educator or leader, and am somewhat of a coward unless I am a follower. So I got nothing
Unfortunately, I’m clueless, too. I feel especially frustrated by my cluelessness, because I’ve received extensive “leadership” training and I feel like I should be good at sharing ideas and building consensus. But I’m an awkward introvert who, at best, prefers to be a sidekick to a better leader who understands and relates to other people more easily than I do.
Something I’d like to try in my community is see if I can reserve the rec room at my local library to do a double feature (maybe two features spaced out by a week) in which I show the films Conspiracy (2001) and Schindler’s List, with a discussion/shared analysis by the viewers following each viewing.
And then maybe I’d try starting a book club where the first book is This Perfect Day by Ira Levin followed by other titles focused on social ideals, flaws, actions, and abuses.
You know, when I have time, that is…
The Avatar episode about No War in Ba Sing Se would fit in as well. Oh, and the opening episodes of the classic Battlestar Galactica - the Cylons attack when the opposition is gathered for a peace conference. We might relate if WW3 starts.
Battlestar 1978 - Saga of a Star World trailer
We probably should make a list of stuff for everybody to select and show for their respective libraries.
*Avatar: The Last Airbender, episode 14, “City of Walls and Secrets”.
*Babylon 5: seasons 4 and 5 focus on the civil war with Earth. In one of the episodes, Sheriden asks incoming warships about what they are supposed to do when issued illegal orders. We could use a supercut of B5 that is solely concerned with the civil war, since the series is filled with many unrelated plot threads.
On that note, Mac’s Lore did an episode that summarizes the civil war.
The Secession of Babylon 5
*V: An alien invasion, in which the aliens literally wear human skin to make themselves appear normal. Aside from eating mice and things, they institute fascism. The series is all about forming a resistance against them. There is also a reboot of V, but I don’t recall which series got to their conclusion.
Don’t put words in their mouth. Your reaction is off putting and killing your own cause. That’s why people don’t want to join you guys.
You’re wrong. People do want to join, that’s why the rally was so large.
If his comment is the reason why YOU don’t want to join the cause, your argument is in bad faith.
Your posts don’t say anything, they are emotional and reactionary. Not strategic to the cause you claim to fight for. That’s not said to be an insult.
Yes. I respond to news articles and the comments in the posts to engage with the content. I don’t post a lot, I mainly comment. I do use learned knowledge, intuition, lived experience, gut feelings, emotion to get the general feeling of how an event or idea affects me personally as well as those I care about, but that’s involves compassion and empathy. I have many flaws though, yes even bias.
Good observation, but that’s already obvious.
Fun fact: your posts don’t say anything either.
Rallying support and showing people who are hurting that they are not alone isn’t emotional or reactionary. If that’s not your idea of helping, then do your own thing and don’t tear down people who are trying. Shitting on anyone trying to help is worse than doing nothing.
I always forget that when the crowds are this large it does kind of help people understand folks are on their side, even if they are not engaged in politics and just read the headlines like us folks on lemmy who argue about things before we read the article and then apologize later…
People need to see that the left isn’t their enemy, which is what corporate media has been pushing for almost a century. The more people see that taking care of each other is the point of government, the sooner we build a world that helps everyone.
I think you misunderstood this conversation I’m talking about your response to ops post not the subject matter.
Well, I’m not talking about the subject matter or the ops post, either. This is random that both of us would be doing this at the same time on the same day in the exact same post.
Hello fellow troll