You forget their mastery of necromancy.
They’re claiming Russia is losing 1,200 soldiers a day. They’re delusional.
I wish I’d seen it. Sounds darkly funny.
Do you have the clip by chance? Or better still, is there a cache of all the videos, articles and posts of Ukraine being a “totally normal democracy”? I remember there was a giant shareable document breaking down and debunking the Uyghur genocide myth a few years ago.
I agree. When the Russian intervention began and Western media did a huge crackdown on the truth, the only people I saw allowed to tell the Russian side on mainstream were MAGA crackpots who looked crazy doing it. Can’t say there’s no censorship, because the narrative is allowed on mainstream media, but presented from the side progressives hate and distrust the most. It’s an insidious kind of manipulation.
I had forgotten about that.
I’ve been noticing the articles are saying he was a chaotic mess, a hindrance to the war in Ukraine, and acted like he was the personal representative of all American volunteers there. Not sure if any of that is true or if they’re just trying to distance themselves from him, but I could see it being true.
Doesn’t change the fact he’s a pro-Ukrainian who tried to assassinate Trump, and failed miserably. Kind of makes me wonder if the first assassin was also pro-Ukraine.
It’s been wild to me how Ukrainian military and government officials have just blatantly said the quiet part out loud, then tried to pretend they never did when it turned out the majority of people didn’t like it. This, and the fact they were pumping out psychotic lies as fast as newspapers could print them (which were all exposed as lies within a week)… I’m just surprised anybody gives them legitimacy or benefit of the doubt anymore.
Perfect example: remember when soldiers were boasting about putting lard on bullets to kill Chechnyans because they were Muslim? And they had to be told by Western supporters that statements like that would hurt their image? Baffling how anyone could think that state is even halfway decent under its current regime.
Exactly. They’ve been screeching about this decades before Trump, insisting the US is some Christian fascist paradise being besieged by an international cabal of communists. Every Trumpite politician I see yammers on about “the left” in every negative thing that happens. Trump didn’t need to get shot at for them to start marching with torches at Charlottesville, or to start attacking city infrastructure to target minorities, or to push state governments and courts to adopt more and more aggressive reactionary legislation. Yes, this will be their rallying cry, their “proof”, but with how much pressure reactionaries have been putting on citizens, it was only a matter of time until someone pushed back and gave them the excuse they wanted.
Not disagreeing with you, but they would eventually turn to violence inevitably. Either through “legal” means as reactionaries restructure the government under Trump and his supporters, or through continued terrorism in areas or periods where he isn’t in power. It doesn’t matter if he’d gotten assassinated or if there had never been an attempt. His fanatics are convinced they’re in a holy war, and they look for any shared of evidence - real or imagined - to support that bias.
I’d wager you’re more annoyed at the hypocrisy of liberals wanting Trump dead than them simply wanting him dead, because I can guarantee his fash followers are going to do violence and terror regardless of any attempt, its success, or its failure.
Unfortunately, I just heard the word going around that someone in the crowd died, so it does definitely appear at the very least real shots were going into the crowd. None of that has been verified, as far as I can tell, but I’m sure we’ll get all the details by tomorrow if not in the next few hours. It’s not looking good either way, sadly. You’re right that the right wing is going to use this for all the mileage it’ll get, stunt or not.
My only counter is that Trump and his supporters already believe Biden and Dems are in a cabal with communists. If it was some anarchist, he’d still blame Biden as equally; if it were a Dem, he’d blame communists as equally. To Trump and his cronies, it’s all the same. No matter who wins, or who fired those shots, they’ll squeeze harder on us.
I ain’t busting out the tinfoil hat just yet, because it’s entirely possible with all the fearmongering of making Trump the antithesis of freedom, that some unwell person might think they’re saving the world by attacking him, but so much of it feels… off. I can’t help but be suspicious. That said, I’ll withhold any final conclusions until experts can investigate and weigh in.
I’d also add that his followers absolutely would not stop following him if it turned out he lied here. He could spit in their faces and they would applaud. He has nothing to lose from doing a stunt like this, in fact they might find it endearing.
Who the hell benefits from this other than his fanatics? I wouldn’t be surprised if this turned out to be staged, and I’d be even less surprised if his supporters didn’t care it wasn’t real.
EDIT: I concede it was almost certainly a real attack, and probably by someone convinced they could save the country by killing him. I just wasn’t going to be surprised if it turned out to be staged. I wish it had been; this is going to get the fanatics frothing at the mouth. They’re already saying he was saved by God to stop the “leftists”.
Reminds me of Prohibition and how violent it got all because Americans couldn’t get booze. To this day, I don’t doubt there’d be an uprising if they ever tried that again here. We’re dependent on bread and circuses, and we project like no other.
They’re irrelevant because the Ghost of Kyiv is single handedly trashing Russia’s air force. /s
Just came from a CNN article rambling about Chinese censorship on Rednote. There’s something really ironic about American media trying to paint China as the villains for censorship when the thing that prompted the migration was the US banning an app just for being Chinese. It’s the same kind of two-faced hypocrisy as when they got caught spending years of making Russia a villain for Ukraine, then dismissed the highly visible crimes of Israel in Gaza.
At some point, I’d hope more Americans will realize there’s a big difference between what the US claims rival countries are doing, and the very visible reality of what allied countries are doing. I’m glad to see thousands of Americans realizing they’ve been lied to, but I know millions more are only going to see the cultivated media response and reaffirm their programmed biases. Hard to stay optimistic, living in the Imperial Core.