I work with someone like this but it’s over Teams.
Last time she called, I had an idea. I said “I know you’ve got lots on, and I can go on a bit, so I’ll be quick.” It didn’t work.
She’s lovely and I don’t want to hurt her feelings, but I’m swamped so having a long conversation about stuff that’s not work isn’t an option.
It’s been mentioned above, but Sarah Marshall’s podcast You’re Wrong About explores these stories of “maligned women of the 90s” (and many others) with depth and compassion. I highly recommend it.