I’m still trying to understand what tankies are. Are they simply people pretending to be communists?

Fuckkkk!!! Not my vitamin gummies!

People here are so out of touch here; it’s super interesting

What a badass

That was really good!

Shame on the NYT, but I guess that kinda goes without saying, given their long, infamous history

I don’t like your take. It’s not cynical or pessimistic enough

That’s an interesting thing to study, and I totally agree we need more studies.

I personally think the most interesting thing is the relationship between a person’s consumption frequency/tolerance level and the effect it has on their driving. Some people getting high for the first time in their life can barely stand whereas there’s people that blaze up daily and drive perfectly fine. I mean, when you do it daily the buzz barely even lasts all that long.

That said, I’m all for research-based legislation. Then, I got 5 on the marketing campaign!

All hope lies in the proles?

Hasan Poker ain’t for everyone but he’s super knowledgeable and provides great context for ongoing issues. I mainly watch on YouTube so the clips are edited down and even more context (charts, sources, etc) are added.

I’m glad my dad irrationally hated McDonald’s when I was a kid so now it feels normal to think it sucks.

Still kinda wish I could go down that slide while sitting on a tray at least one more time

Isn’t she more of a neo-liberal? What makes her con vs lib to you/y’all

Right… but she’s not gonna do that.

We have to force her and well we’re probably not gonna do that either, but that’s def more likely to work

Idk, I’m bilingual and I only ever think in English. It doesn’t really seem to make a difference though, saying things out loud vs in my head.

I’m learning a third language now and can just barely communicate with others (worked with a taxi driver!). That said, I wouldn’t consider myself truly trilingual yet. I could think in that language but it doesn’t really feel like it changes anything - I still only know the same words in my head

It’s cheap

I mean, sure but Dems only really have a chance because Republicans continue to run the shuttiest candidates imaginable. That is absolutely true

Like, Obama won partly because McCain chose to run with Palin. It’s not the only reason he won, but it’s silly to think it wasn’t a major factor - especially considering everything we know about white American voters, that’s been made just as clear as it ever could be. I bet it was a tough decision for some/many Americans

I’ve always wished I could feel like the choice in a general election was a hard decision, but alas I’m working class and brown (and believe in science)

Yeah, idk. They’ll show the important scenes. Just not entirely or anything. lol

I was mostly joking but it’s def an option. It works if you just want the jist of the story and don’t really care about the acting or basically anything else

Have you tried watching movie recaps on youtube? It’s the other extreme but i find it good enough for movies I’ll never see. There’s lots of movies I’ve seen there I’m glad I didn’t watch for a full hour. Most movies have tons of similar tropes you can easily understand in like a 15 min sentence

Dude, I didn’t say most of what you’re assuming I said. It’s weird what you’re doing. We’re not convincing each other of anything. The idea is to try and understand each other. I’m not going to engage with the original convo anymore because it’s not fruitful. Now, I’m more interested in the poor/lack of communication going on.

I mean, you wrote a whole lot in response to my saying “you’re not understanding me” with a defensive rant about how you are actually understanding me, I just can’t tell or am lying to you. I’ll say it once more. You’re not understanding me or what I’m trying to convey. I’ll accept my part in failing to communicate but it takes two… to u know not assume an entire thesis about what the other is sayinf

I personally would never criticize people doing what you’re doing (not voting/voting third party). I disagree with it, but do your thing. I tend to criticize the Dems so it’s wild you think I was saying Biden shouldn’t drop out. You’re saying legit silly things and it only makes sense to you and maybe people that already agree with you. I mean, you didn’t even answer the one question I asked, about what happens after the election, and you now you’ve jumped to thinking I’m against everything you stand for or something. That’s wild bro!

This is what frustrates me most. I disagreed with one thing you said, and you went nuclear like I’m basically your number one enemy. It’s like you’d prefer to be all alone and/or have less allies.

I honestly care a bit less about politics since realizing most of us can’t even have a very basic, low-stakes conversation about what each person thinks. I mean, if we don’t truly understand what the other is saying what’s the point?

Fair enough. We’re talking past each other at this point and I don’t really feel like repeating myself.

I disagree with the movement’s strategy, and lack thereof, and I disagree with your entire first paragraph. There is absolutely a lot to lose and it’s beyond frustrating and disrespectful for someone like you to say there isn’t. I’d implore you to think about even just one negative outcome that could occur because of your movement’s lack of consideration for their fellow citizens.

That said, I’d bet decent money you’re not a Muslim-American, that could be banned from visiting their family in a foreign country, or a Mexican-American that might be at risk of being deported/their family being deported, etc. My guess is you’ll be just fine no matter what happens and you don’t really care about the people that could suffer most due to your reactionary political goals.

Sorry, that didn’t answer my main question at all.

I understand what the movements goals are. I’m not interested in discussing the strategy.

My thinking goes like this, say the movement is a major success. And she tries to call your bluff (again lack of a better phrase here) and the movement true to its word and values succeed in being the deciding vote, let’s say. What are the possible results? There’s likely more than two but the obvious groups are either she loses or she wins. My question is then what?

She either won without the movement kinda giving them a political w and proving their power all while demoralizing folks that get invested. Or, she loses and the movement is blamed and scapegoated as the sole reason she lost and whole lot else.

I’m wondering about what folks in this movement think will happen after the election. Are we ready for the worst-caae scenario?