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  • WillStealYourUsername@lemmy.blahaj.zoneMto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneContext Rule
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    5 days ago

    You are using the term technically incorrectly :P

    I’ve had piles of tankies try to convince me that the workers in China are in fact the ones in control of the government (no mention of the means of production though 🤔),

    I was referring to this. If the workers in china were actually in control of the government (which they aren’t), and the businesses were controlled by the state (which quite a few of them are, but not all), then that would be a form of socialism.

    As it stands however it’s a capitalist oligarchy.

    I would also like to say that I’m not arguing for this specific implementation of socialism, I’m elaborating on what is required for socialism in reference to how a tankie might deluded themselves into thinking that china is communist.



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    The soviet union had unions or just the one involuntary one if I remember correctly, but since it was essentially controlled by the state it wasn’t all that powerful. Cuba today does the same thing.

    Should be noted that the soviet union was neither fascist nor communist. Fascism is a form of capitalism, and while many “communist states” (such as china) are capitalist, the SU had a planned economy.

    I had one tankie try to convince me that since there was some limited workplace democracy in the SU this meant that workplaces were democratic, but if that is all that is required then I’m happy to announce that plenty of liberal democracies today are socialist.

    Edit: oh woops the fascism vs planned economy thing was intended for another comment