• melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    16 days ago

    “United” States stands divided. It just gets worse…and at an incredible speed. It’s always quicker and easier to demolish as opposed to building. Every one wants the easy money and the quick buck without a balanced expenditure of energy.

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    17 days ago

    How would a state secede from the US? Like, what’s the actual process?

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      17 days ago

      The best way would be quiet quitting. Making routes to federal buildings surrounded by construction and road closures at odd times. Overlapping federal job descriptions internally and never communicating with federal equivalents unless required, and that with a “great email, still working on that!” Or “emailed Oregon about that and they had some great ideas, get with them for the data!”

      Offering great state guard contracts to all military eligible to re-up, that exceed what the feds offer. Build out coastal protection fleet due to “them darn migrants.” Train your military in FPV as if you were what the US should be doing right now, so the feds know any pushback will be costly, and you’re not breaking any laws anyway, remember?

      Tell your state and local police we don’t work with the FBI or IRS in cooperation any more, and let the populace know the feds must individually enforce all tax law. That’s where it’s good for the Feds to remember that’s not required, and the 4th amendment prevents them being forced to act… in fact, that makes them subject to arrest for trying due to the laws of the great state of california.

      All legal, and petty. But legal.

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      17 days ago

      Legally, a state can’t secede really, but the other states could agree to let it go. It would require a Constitutional Convention, which would require 2/3 of states to agree to let it go.

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        17 days ago

        Better than the current situation honestly. Both being preoccupied is better than Trump’s admirations of Canadian minerals

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                17 days ago

                I don’t know if you understand the pettiness and absolute disdain of the idea of being American that Canadians have. I live in Ottawa so I would be in the city that gets nuked if it came to that

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    17 days ago

    While I agree with telling Trump to go lick Elon’s balls, states are specifically forbidden from entering into trade agreements with foreign countries by the Constitution. To do this, California would need to be willing to secede from the Union. I’m okay with it.

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      17 days ago

      California produces 10% of American agricultural needs. If they secede it would be way worse on the economy than these tariffs.

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        17 days ago

        I think if California were to secede, Oregon and Washington probably would too. A lot of blue states that border Canada would also probably Jump ship. New York and Michigan might secede too. Those 5 states make up almost 30% of America’s economy and are the center of very lucrative industries like the movie industry, automotive industry, electronics and software industries, the global financial industry. Those 5 states would do just fine without the United States but the United states would be an unimportant backwater without them.

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    18 days ago

    Last civil war was about state rights to own slaves. Now its state right to avoid trade distribution?

    My god the writers need to be fired.

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          17 days ago

          Yes, but remember the Jews are a very crafty folk. They are building their plot of canonization through trump - however their is one other person that could supercede his religious seat.

          The right name, at the right time, in the right place makes all the difference.

          However normal people are so antichristian without even trying to understand the reasoning behind a christian book. Which I find really frustrating, as they don’t understand it is pivotal to capturing the world’s heart. It has been used as the archetype for the modern worker and their submission. Submission to each other is kindness, and peaceful. However, we are forced to submit to a faceless corporation, for which we must revere, fear, and hold above all else while in position. Essentially making a false god in all but name, however this unbreathing beast controls your lives.

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    17 days ago

    All hail The New California Republic. But in all seriousness, it wouldn’t surprise me if the United States has a balkanization event happen in the near future.

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      17 days ago

      The US does not need balkanization.

      We have a single region that has been rebellious and trying to corrupt and destroy the rest of the union since the founding, because they cannot see any governmental or religious structure as legitimate unless it is founded on the principles of racism. This is their own words.

      Lincoln was wrong to readmit the south, we should have let Sherman finish then build a wall around them, while letting any slaves who wanted to escape do so.

      Either that or we need to restart reconstruction today with absolute brutality.

      Before they committed treason against the US alone, this time they allied with Russia to bring us down.

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        17 days ago

        I dont think the lines are the same anymore. Social media and 24/7 news has given people in plenty of northern regions the same viewpoints. A civil war would not be north vs. south. it would be neighbor vs neighbor

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          17 days ago

          I always hear this.

          I am brown and grew up in the Midwest.

          Then my family moved to the south.

          This is like comparing Canadians who care about hockey with the Khmer Rouge exterminating much of their population.

          The south is just infinitely worse in literally every way.

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            17 days ago

            there are a lot of nice people in the south. there are a lot of brown people in the south. you think everyone needs to suffer brutality for what the worst do?

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              17 days ago

              In the Midwest there are bad people too.

              The difference?

              In the Midwest when a racist is being a racist, people say shit, they stand up to them!

              In the south the bystanders just laugh, at worst they laugh nervously.

              Which is why it’s a vile and corrupt society.

              Police yourself, or don’t be surprised to be judged as evil.

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        17 days ago

        We have a single region that has been rebellious and trying to corrupt and destroy the rest of the union since the founding

        Isn’t a ton of the current Trump administration rot coming from Silicon Valley?

        Isn’t Silicon Valley in California?

        Lincoln was wrong to readmit the south

        The South was under the Reconstruction plan, complete with Marshall Law and Freedman’s Bureaus and all sorts of additional federal oversight, untilThe Compromise of 1877 gave Rutherford B. Hayes the presidency at the cost of his soul.

        Lincoln didn’t simply readmit the South. He readmitted 9 million enslaved Americans as proper first class citizens. And the initial wave of democratization gave birth to a brief but generally optimistic egalitarian glimpse of a potential future.

        Lincoln’s big mistake was not putting Smedly Butler into his VP seat. Letting the country revert to Andrew Johnson was the big blunder. One that Grant had to spend two terms mopping up.

        But that’s all distant history. The modern fascist presidency is born out of Manhattan Island. The modern Texas/Florida/Ohio Axis of Evil is a product of Yale Business School. Stanford Alumni are fucking us up far more today than some Daughters of the Confederacy could have dreamed.

        This isn’t a North/South problem. It’s a turf war between extractive industry and the professional class.

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          17 days ago

          Yeah, because if there’s two things we know silicon valley loves it’s the core issues of the Trump administrafion:

          1. Immigration restrictions

          2. Tariffs

          He was voted in purely about the south, who are not only fascists to the core (if what they consider to be Christo-fascists).

          The thing is: their religion, the southern Baptist church, was founded because they wanted a religion whose core dogma was that slavery was a commandment from God. Hence their basing the Sbc around the curse of Ham justifying slavery. The nazis themselves based the Nuremberg Laws off Jim crow, only without the 1 drop rule.

          This is 100% the south, the restriction of women’s rights, the anti-lgbt, racism, isolation ism.

          They’ve been sold that Russia is their best ally because it is the last True (read: white) Christian Nation fighting against the atheist and Muslim hordes who have infested Europe.

          Silicon valley doesn’t want any of this bullshit, they just want less regulation. This has been a nightmare for them, Europe is starting their own competitors and regulating the cloud providers.

          Silicon valley is smart, this whole thing has the backwards inbred balls-over-brains energy of the south.

          Show me one Manhattan anyone who thinks those tariffs are a good idea.

          Super popular in the south though, finally those rich northerners will have to pay them to do the work, instead of buying stuff from the dirty Mexicans.

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            17 days ago

            there’s two things we know silicon valley loves it’s the core issues of the Trump administrafion:

            Immigration restrictions
            
            Tariffs
            

            Go pick up a copy of The Network State