• @njm1314@lemmy.world
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    44 months ago

    This is what you get from that rhetoric. Trump has been inviting it for a while. You have the Heritage Foundation, his Brain Trust, telling us that if we don’t sit down and submit we will be put down forcibly. Well this is what you get Donnie.

    • @triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml
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      94 months ago

      “yeah, keep doing that and some useless fuck will spectacularly fail to assassinate you, giving a huge boost to your election campaign, take that!”

  • @useyourmainfinger@lemmy.world
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    34 months ago

    So the shooter was accurate enough to wing him in the ear from outside the event, but also wild enough to hit people in the crowd, ok then…

    • @Urist@lemmy.ml
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      54 months ago

      Are you trying to imply that it was staged and that they shot Trump’s ear for plausibility? If you want to make a conspiracy theory, at least make it believable.

    • @DickFiasco@lemm.ee
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      114 months ago

      Hard to tell because it’s a recording, but yeah I was thinking something very small like a 22 short or a high powered BB gun.

      • NaibofTabr
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        -44 months ago

        Apparently the shooter was in the crowd, which means it wasn’t a long gun of any kind. Probably a pistol, something small enough to conceal. 22 makes sense.

  • @resin85@lemmy.ca
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    564 months ago

    Seems appropriate to drop this here:

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-reichstag-fire

    On February 27, 1933, the German parliament (Reichstag) building burned down. The Nazi leadership and its coalition partners used the fire to claim that Communists were planning a violent uprising. They claimed that emergency legislation was needed to prevent this. The resulting act, commonly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, abolished a number of constitutional protections and paved the way for Nazi dictatorship.

    • @slug@lemmy.world
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      24 months ago

      do you mean anything by this beyond his election chances? i’m failing to imagine what policies would change based on this

      • Random Dent
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        154 months ago

        If there were any security/civil rights/general spying on people bills that were floating around but were too unpalatable to push through, those are most likely going through now.

        Also if the shooter turns out to be anything other than a straight white cis male, then whatever group they were part of is probably gonna have a bad time for the foreseeable future.

        • @Moonguide@lemmy.ml
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          64 months ago

          Let’s be honest, even if its a good ole boy, the nutters will find a way to blame it on minorities and/or the “left”.

          • Amerikan Pharaoh
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            They’re probably fabricating the manifesto right now. Dollars to donuts is they’re going to bullshit the would-be shooter as gay or trans. This is gonna be a Reichstag Fire moment; all because some little twerp civilian couldn’t hit a qualifier shot.

            Apparently the shooter’s a registered Republican! This just got infinitely funnier.

            • @Moonguide@lemmy.ml
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              Well, the nutters are just in time for gymnastics. Olympics are in a few days. If America’s bullshit didn’t spray out to the rest of the world like a hippopotamus with diahrrea, I’d grab popcorn.

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                I’m not sure how this spins tbh; dude’s Repub registration was recently dug up. The only bit I’ve seen otherwise is a 15 buck donation to I want to say ActBlue or somebody on the so-called-progressive side of things; so I’d love to see how this twists and permutates.

  • @someacnt_@lemmy.world
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    I was freaking scared when I saw lots of people in my country was cheering Trump’s ralley. It’s not even the old people, they were in their 20s-30s. If Trump succeeds, I don’t see it going well in my country as well… How do I survive in a fascist country? Sad.

  • @Birch@sh.itjust.works
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    284 months ago

    There are moments in history that completely change the course of events for decades to come. We just witnessed literal inches between two possibly extremely different futures. Very strange feeling.

    • @roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      As much as I loathe the guy, I think we all dodged a bullet.

      If he died of natural causes last month I don’t think the MAGAts would have rallied behind Desantis, or whomever got the nomination. I’m not saying they wouldn’t have voted for them, just that the excitement wouldn’t be there.

      If this has succeeded, the supporters would have transferred and been even more pumped up. And sympathy from those weird fuck undecideds could make the difference, not just in the presidency, but both chambers of Congress, and for their policy goals too.

      Riding the wake of an assassination the draconian shit they would push through could have been far worse than anything Trump would have been able to accomplish in a second term.

      Take civil rights legislation in the 60s; a lot of what LBJ accomplished was credited to the national feeling after the Kennedy assassination. Would JFK have been able to accomplish all that if he had served eight years with public sentiment toward civil rights being divided?

      It sucks that this is boosting his chances in November. But a martyr, a new figurehead, and a more energized base could have been far worse.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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        24 months ago

        Take civil rights legislation in the 60s; a lot of what LBJ accomplished was credited to the national feeling after the Kennedy assassination. Would JFK have been able to accomplish all that if he had served eight years with public sentiment toward civil rights being divided?

        I think the same thing about the Apollo program. Kennedy gave that speech and then died, and now not only did we have to beat the Russians we had to do it for a beloved slain president.

        There’s also an episode of Red Dwarf where they go back in time and convince Kennedy to be the second shooter on the grassy knoll, because his survival would have started WWIII.

    • @supertrucker@lemmy.ml
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      34 months ago

      Are you kidding? The only things in this universe capable of superluminal speeds are a good rumor and merchandising opportunities

        • @supertrucker@lemmy.ml
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          14 months ago

          That’s probably why being a crown prince in medieval times was more hazardous than a bering strait crab fisherman running for president of the United States

          • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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            14 months ago

            Actually it was very very safe, if you compare it with peasants or burghers with occupational hazard being very low. Well, unless you were an Ottoman prince.

    • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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      74 months ago

      Yep, the person who did this is an idiot. They don’t realize all they did was help his cause and give him that much stronger of a chance of winning presidency.

      I mean, they probably don’t realize anything anymore given that they had bullets actually go through them.

      • Cowbee [he/him]
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        114 months ago

        Liberals still believe in Great Man Theory.

        If he died, another would take his place and wins for sure as revenge.

        Now that he lived, he has excellent PR.

        Biden is constantly taking Ls with his voterbase, like pursuance of Genocide and general brain melting.

        Trump is constantly on the rise with his voterbase.

        This is why Adventurism doesn’t work, and why Leftists need to join an org like PSL and work towards building dual power.

        • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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          Sure but his replacement wouldn’t be him, so at least some harm would have been avoided that way, but you’re right. It would have been much better if this never happened.

          • Cowbee [he/him]
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            44 months ago

            Yes and no. We have no crystal ball, ultimately the material conditions for fascism are still present in the US, and they will not go away even with 10 straight DNC victories. America is a dying Empire, so reactionary thinking, trying to turn the clock back, is on the rise.

            Leftism must become the status quo to survive fascism.

            There would be some harm reduction, yes, and I would have probably celebrated had Trump been popped, but his replacement would be just as bad, merely delayed.

        • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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          Not if he didn’t miss.

          Actually, I guess the democrats would lose either way. It would have only prevented Trump from winning (which many people would probably say is a good thing, but for many it would still not be enough of course), not ensuring the democrats win. So yeah, you’re right.

        • Cowbee [he/him]
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          44 months ago

          Literally true, Trump was handed the best PR on a silver platter, and even if he croaked his replacement has a sure win.