TERF island making it official, JK Rowling already celebrating.

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      The best theory I’ve heard so far is that the UK never had a revolution or something similar, it’s always just concessions to the working class just before they just guillotine everyone - historically. As such, feminism in the UK sprouted largely not from some sort of class based consciousness but from like proto-girlboss bullshit of aristocratic women, as such, the underlying theme isn’t liberation, it’s keeping your place in the hierarchy.

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      A symptom for sure. She’s just a kids writer, nobody would pay her any attention if she was a communist. She’s being boosted exactly because she’s a TERF.

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      1. second wave feminism got a lot of traction in the uk and they are the original terfs
      2. third wave wasn’t particularly successful, partially due to the perceived success of the second wave
      3. people who hold transphobic views can point at prominent second wavers and use them as a shield
      4. people who are ignorant and/or don’t have any opinion are told by second wavers that trans people are bad and don’t question it
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        My partner read a collection of essays (quite good, but dogshit editor) I think called The Right to Sex. That was their argument as I recall it

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      If I had to guess the instance this TERF culture began, I’d say 2016 as most irritating right-wing trends did. Lots of other responses you got are great. But the more interesting thing IMO is thinking about why the UK is so militant in its hate. I’ll try keep it short because truthfully I could go into more detail for a whole lot longer but I already know the answer and spending time thinking about it will only make me more sad :(

      The majority of residents in the 29th layer of hell (formerly known as the United Kingdom) lives for kicking down. It is a nation of post-hope, where numbing oneself or believing one must out hustle and “get theirs” is necessary to simply survive or (god forbid!) thrive. This land has very effectively (nearly totally) naturalised hierarchy into the national social fabric. The UK adores individualism, it is a pastime, to complain about everything and anything without ever entertaining the idea of uniting a group of people to fight for something right, the UK is a nation of cowards. Kicking down at our weakest members of society is the only way to sustain this culture, it is the predicate needed for the owning class to let the greater society laugh, and those who harbour power know erasing this cowardice would lead to the alternative situation, one which may result in the greater population to begin looking in the mirror and potentially finding out that real hope can exist, one in which we incorporate a planned economy with state owned enterprises, and totally eradicate of the minority who own the majority.

      To live in the UK is to submit oneself to masturbatory torture. The fact that such a state exists will forever be the reason I believe god does not care for its creation, we as a species are so self-aggrandising to believe we are anything but one of gods funny little missteps.

      Yours sincerely, a British citizen.

      PS:

      Remember how they treated Turing, this is a nation of barbarism with a frown and a cake of makeup on to hide its ugly pores :/

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    It’s funny how all these terfs never cared about trans/womens rights until the right wing media ie daily mail told them to.

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      If you mean printing weapons, I really doubt that would help a lot in getting access to female hospital wards, homeless shelters, bathrooms, domestic abuse centres, and so on.

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    Do they at least give a pass people who successfully changed their gender?

    There are some countries who at least let people after the surgery and legal gender change, but did they stoop even lower than that?

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      The UK has “gender recognition certificates” that are only held by about 1% of trans people iirc. They’re notoriously hard to acquire even if you’ve medically transitioned, and aren’t that useful beyond changing your gender on documents like passports I think

      I’m pretty sure this ruling totally overrules GRCs or at least doesn’t mention them. Even for those with a cert you’re still affected.

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    Trans men should all be able to claim these benefits now. I bet that would make them mad. Or are they gonna say trans women arent allowed and neither are trans men? Cuz thats basically just admitting its about transphobia not the “Birth gender” argument they always use.

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      it’s trans men, not “transmen”; and trans women, not “transwomen”. Trans is an adjective, meaning it’s a word that describes a noun. A trans man is a man who happens to be trans. The (grammatically incorrect) usage of trans as a noun (“a trans”, “transman”, “transwoman”, “transperson”, etc.) is a dogwhistle meant to imply that trans men aren’t men and trans women aren’t women but some separate category

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        oh ok wasnt aware of that. I’ll edit the comment. I hope its obvious by my comments content im not trying to use a dog whistle. I was just copying the syntax of transgender and replacing gender with the persons gender. Sorry for my lack of knowledge on that stuff. I tend to not really do much research on human rights issues since the correct position is pretty obviously just let people have rights.