“This is really going to impact institutions that we take for granted,” Internet Archive director of archiving and data services Jefferson Bailey told the Standard, “like our museums, our historical societies, our public libraries, our academic libraries — just a lot of people that keep information free and accessible and online.”
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They want to remove anything that keeps history accountable. This anti accountability regime don’t want their sins to be remembered. Imagine the linage of these assholes. How they will be looked down upon because their ancestors are are bigots and liars.
They don’t deserve lineages
It’s part of the fascist playbook
They don’t want their lies to be proven false. Same reason trump regime keeps making private government information that was previously available to the public.
“My lies can’t be wrong if I erase all records of the truth”
sucks that the things we need now require regular folks to be their patrons rather than collectively funding them, but here we are…
Your taxes can only go towards kidnappings! /s
Just donated 50 ♥️
❤️Donated. Cash is difficult right now, but I had some crusty old crypto sitting around just shrinking every month - they make it very easy to send some crypto their way so I was happy to dump it.
Thank you for the reminder. I donated 👍
Thanks errer
Disposable income Lemmings, this is the way
❤️ love you Internet Archive
I donated.
Thanks for giving the link and making this an easy 1-click thing. Just donated.
The post made me want to donate. Your link made me follow through. $25 for now. I hope others feel inspired to help too. Even a little bit from all us will help them float through the era Elmo and the Orangutan. 🦧
Elon Musk will go to any length to scrub this image from the Internet:
Yup
Liberetard
He looks like what you’d get if you took a dick and made it a pussy.
…what
I said, he looks like what you’d get if you took a dick and made it a pussy.
As in, he’s a dick (asshole), that’s a pussy (coward).
The government funded them $345,000.
This is 100% spiteful and not an example of “wasteful government spending”
We can easily crowdfund this. Especially the parts regarding Republican fuckery.
America, where the good stuff is funded on the side.
It sucks because the goal of all of this is privatization. They literally want regular people to pick up the “slack” (that they themselves artificially created) and fund things that are supposed to be public services.
So when they cut shit like this, our options are basically to: let it die, or do the exact thing that they want. Either way, it’s a win for them. It fucking sucks.
Just join the party? Everybody knows the US is a steaming shitshow more than usual.
Sorry, I don’t see what you’re saying
I give 5$ every month to wikipedia. I can give another 5$ to archive.org every month.
Spitefulness is the point. Trying to make progressives cry. “Owning the libs”.
When donvict talked about being “your” retribution, he was throwing red meat to complete dumbasses because this is the kind of shit he is planning for them. Performative bullshit that will do nothing for the base, and certainly nothing for normal Americans.
Extremists always destroy history so they can write their own.
I doubt the Library of Alexandria had permission from all rights holders to hold copies of many books. /s
Recent inconvinient history. They love to dig up ancient “glory days” (e.g., Ancient Rome, Teutonic knights…) and attach them to their image.
They’re not meticulous historians though. LGBTQ people were more accepted in the Roman Republic (and in ancient Greek) than today.
“Caius Julius Caesar: husband to all the wives, wife to all the husbands.” was a saying that my Latin professor taught us in school.
They’re not meticulous historians though. LGBTQ people were more accepted in the Roman Republic (and in ancient Greek) than today.
“Caius Julius Caesar: husband to all the wives, wife to all the husbands.” was a saying that my Latin professor taught us in school.
Being AMAB and bottom was stigmatized to the point their swearing system revolved around emasculation threats, so that’s different from what the queer movement of today aims for…
Our swearing system in modern English revolves around sex, violence and infidelity, but our society is also kinda into those things. Societies are complicated.
Edit: also sometimes people still say shit about bottoms when they curse.
I agree that it should not be the goal for any modern civilization to copy Rome. They were not a just society, they had slavery for starters, but Roman citizens enjoyed a lot of personal liberty. If you were dirt poor you would not even have the time for a “nonproductive” relationship, if you’ll excuse my expression. Kids were a resource more than a cost.
I’m not an expert but I think “stigmatized” is too strong a word in this context, I’m sure they did joke around if a rumour or a hunch was spread about a person’s romantic affairs by the people who hated them for their success or by their enemies, I’m not sure they really cared that much otherwise. Of course before the christian emperors came along.
Being bottom was really only stigmatized if you were bottoming for a social inferior.
Giving a woman head was more “gay”/stigmatized than taking it up the bum, unless maybe it was a slave penetrating you.
There’s no room or recognition for lesbians really. Trans issues are a tangled web, as they always are.
They don’t care. Just like with religious texts, they’ll shop around for the things they like and ignore those they don’t.
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”
George Orwell, 1984
They destroy the past to sell you a future. It’s coercion and extortionate.
We have always been at war with Eurasia
Fuck you I won’t don’t do what you tell me. -RATM
I think people are going to find that, with the existence of the internet, it’s a lot more difficult to completely remove things from the collective memory. Won’t stop them from trying though.
Unless they pull some “Great Firewall” shit. And even then… That said, it does seem like they only need ~30% of the population to believe it, and they have that shit locked down.
They are scared because the people don’t want things to go back to the way they were.
The people want them gone.
And it’s 100% justified.
They know they deserve to be handed over to the mob.
$345,000?
That’s like, 2 devs and an 8 CPU VM.
Holy shit, that’s like not even a rounding error to the US Government. So obvious what he is doing.
It’s trully disgusting and inexcusable.
That’s 1/100th the price Trump paid to send innocent people to CECOT.
This publicity will probably bring in more money for the internet archive than what was cut.
Still a dick move by musk, but I’m glad it’s not an existential threat to the project.
For a bit.
Public institutions need and deserve public funding.
Elon Musk is what you’d get if you gave the illusion of personality to a 4Chan troll.
He’s the poster child for scared, greedy, paranoid nepo babies shielded from reality by wealth inheritance and wealth inequality, incapable of empathy turning him into a fascist bigot idiot trying to kill other people to hoard more money.
Like those villains that are made of million of insects, each cell in Musk’s body is a 4chan troll.
Oooooh I like that idea. Horrific imagery, but clever.
Elon Musk is what you get when “it is not a phase mom” is a credo.
I am not now, nor have I ever been a Christian, but shit like this makes me go Jesus Fucking Christ.
Archive.org is a critical repository of knowledge and archiving the internet. Elon has cut nothing, but damaged a ton. It is kinda incredible how many damage he has done.
Trying to burn digital books. Fascism in 2025.
Both the Internet Archive and Wikipedia are really important. I guess the way is to make alternatives or datahoard in these difficult times.
Why make alternatives when these fantastic organizations already exist? It’s not the first time they’ve come under fire and it definitely won’t be the last.
If vandalous cunts like Musk wish for them to go away and will de-fund them to that end, best thing we can do is donate to them and spread the word they need help.
Why make alternatives when these fantastic organizations already exist? It’s not the first time they’ve come under fire and it definitely won’t be the last.
You’ve answered your own question: because one day they might not take the fire and collapse. It’s like saying it’s not the first time your old HDD has been showing bad sectors and definitely won’t be the last. That’s all the more reason to make a backup!
I agree with you that we should donate to them and make them more people-funded, but ideally you want that taken care of through public funding coming out of taxes. You can’t just sustain every single entity through individual donations.
I feel this is a bad analogy, Wikipedia and IA are not a hard drive spinning in a server rack, they are community projects - made for the public good. They do not face the same issues. The problems they repeatedly face are always the same - funding (which is largely solved) and the issue discussed on topic - legal.
The reason it’s important to defend the IA/Wikipedia and pile our resources behind them instead of splitting off new projects is that if they lose legal cases, any other projects with the same or similar goals will face exactly the same attacks and results. Unless you intend to host your replacement on the moon.
Fair enough. In that case, let me amend my prescription:
Whether or not it’s the same project is immaterial — it’s about redundancy of the data, hosting it in multiple countries, in such a way that if one country turns authoritarian and wants to burn it down, they’ll be backed up in 10 other countries. The community as well should be international and redundant in a way that allows for responsibilities to shift if push comes to shove.
Ultimately it’s about not being vulnerable to one country having one bad day.
Unless you intend to host your replacement on the moon.
No, just countries that don’t want to destroy IA/Wikipedia. If there’s none of them left, then we’ll have much bigger problems.
I think that if we work together as people we can achieve more than just a couple of good organizations that can fade. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t donate to Wikipedia or Internet Archive. The goal isn’t to compete, it isn’t a business. Just to make things stronger.
I think that if we work together as people we can achieve more than just a couple of good organizations that can fade.
That is exactly what the Internet Archive and Wikipedia are - a bunch of people who wanted to achieve a shared goal in an open, free, and democratic manner.
As soon as you start building something to replace what they’ve made you’ll quickly realize what they did - it’s very big, so it needa layers of governance, and you don’t want mismanagement by any one person or handful of small people, so you incorporate it and make a charter of your mandates, policies, procedures for stakeholders to vote for removal of people causing issues, clauses stating the data and corporation are owned by your non-profit entity and may never be for-profit… And pretty soon you have yourself an institution.
Downloading and accessing Wikipedia offline through Kiwix is actually pretty easy.
How does it work? Does it download all Wikipedia or any other website I point it to (like Project Gutenberg as it says on the website) pages or does it download it when I access the page?
You get a .zim file that is either just text on the pages or text + pictures. One I have is like 109GB~ w/ pictures. There’s many others to choose from as well I believe not just the ones I mentioned
Oh god. I’m gonna need more storage
Europe here: can we have it? 😅
Exactly what I was thinking. Relocate it to Western Europe, in a country like France they would be showered in public money from local, regional and national funds, then arts preservation funds, then whatever else funds.
It’s easy to see when watching European cinema, a film like Flow has 3 minutes of “thank you” logos at the beginning, for all the public funding from various regions and actors.
I just want to shake conservatives and ask “Why doesn’t your government want you to know things??”
It won’t do shit. These are the same people that wouldn’t shut the fuck up about “FEMA death camps” when Obama was in office.
This is advanced brain rot.
Ugh some asshole who’s only going to live a century depriving an endless future of historical knowledge. Musk needs to be detained and imprisoned.
Yes, “detained.” And “imprisoned.” ☠️
