Personally, I don’t* but I was curious what others think.
*some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.
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Only if you say sudo.
Ehhh food preparation more than cooking. You’re just assembling things. I’m a pro at a good sandwich if I do say so myself. Sometimes I have to cook to make that happen. But a basic sandwich…nah, no cooking involved.
It’s only cooking if it’s done in the Cooke region governed by the Earle of Sandwich. Anything else is sparkling food preparation.
I don’t think it’s cooking unless you are applying heat to cause a chemical reaction. So, making a grilled cheese sandwich counts as cooking, but a BP&J does not.
Beenut putter?
Butter, peanutbutter and jelly?
Butter, Peanut butter, and Just a little more peanut butter
Lol whoops. I’m leaving it.
Making ceviche or sushi officially not cooking confirmed - how dare those posers call themselves sushi chefs.
I think of a chef as a “preparer of food” not necessarily “food cooker”
So sushi chef is still accurate to their opinion, disclaimer I agree with them so I could always be rationalizing it.
They still have to cook the rice.
chef is french for chief. they are the head of the kitchen.
The acid from the lime is doing the cooking in ceviche.
I agree - and it specifically isn’t doing so through an application of heat.
Some of the constituent ingredients have to be cooked, but ceviches and sushi rolls aren’t cooked any more than salads or burritos. They’re assembled or prepared.
You’re ignoring the chemical process in ceviche.
Yea, ceviche is cooked with acid rather than heat - you can also cook some foods with salt!
You could cook using an exothermic reaction between ingredients, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening when making ceviche, so a ceviche is not cooked.
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The proteins are being chemically denatured.
By heat?
Just because it’s preparing food and not cooking doesn’t mean that it is lesser.
gotta cook the rice for sushi. checkmate.
What if I want my raw spam musubi extra crunchy?
Then you should opt the spam out for soused harring.
Sashimi: do I not even exist, bro?
Ha, you actually believe in Sashimi? Crazy.
Slap a whole fish down in front of you.
You: “Not cooked”
slice fillet of fish off and present it.
You: “Not cooked”
slice fillet into small bite size pieces and squirt some neon green horseradish next to it
You: “Dis is cooked!”
?
Yea, it looks fucking delicious. Thank you for cooking me a fine meal!
Ceviche is said to be “cooked” with acid, even if that’s not the most accurate term. And most forms of sushi are made with cooked rice, at minimum, and not uncommonly with other cooked ingredients. So those things kind of muddy the waters for your point. But a clearer example may be something like beef tartare, a garden salad with a vinegarette, or sashimi. Those things are “prepared”, not cooked, because no cooking is involved in their making. Cooking is specifically the preparation of food utilizing heat. Chefs prepare plenty of dishes that do not involve the act of cooking.
What if I microwave it?
You can cook with a microwave, but if you’re just reheating something that’s not cooking.
By that logic, salads and sushi aren’t cooking.
Correct.
I wouldn’t say that they are cooking. They are preparing food.
I guess it would depend on the type of sandwich
. Peanut butter and jelly? No
A simple cheese sandwich? No
Grilled cheese sandwich? Yes
What about a grilled cheese and peanut butter and jelly and pickles sandwich with a side of sourkrout?
I’m going with inedible but yeah that’s cooking
peanut butter and jelly and pickles sandwich
this sounds like something my SiL would eat when she was pregnant.
also… what kind of pickles? I bet i could get my nephew and nieces to eat it, and they’d probably love it.
Vlassic! Obviously!
If someone told me they “cooked themselves a BLT”, I’d assume they meant they’d baked the bread, fried the bacon, and emulsified the mayonnaise themselves and the slicing and assembly were just the final parts of the process.
Interesting… I wouldn’t have thought of a BLT either, but you do have to at least cook the bacon most of the time. Now I’m wondering what a BLT made with Tactical Bacon (pre cooked and canned bacon jerky) would taste like… 🤔
No one ever says “I’m cooking a sandwich”
True, but, turn that into ‘I’m cooking up a sandwich’, and now the phrase potentially expands its domain to basically mean any kind of food preparation.
The addition if ‘up’ makes it less literal, more jovial and less bounded.
True, but, turn that into ‘I’m cooking up a sandwich’, and now the phrase potentially expands its domain to basically mean any kind of food preparation.
The phrase expands into any preparation or invention, even ones that clearly do not have anything to do with cooking. e.g. “I’m cooking up a plan to deal with this.”
Maybe a panini.
Put butter on the outside, throw it in a hot pan and grill it. Even go further and get a sandwich press. NOW YOU’RE COOKIN!
Eh… why are we trying to gatekeep cooking?
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It’s not gatekeeping, it’s a discussion of semantics. The official definition of cooking is the preparation of food by using heat.
Talking about definitions and how far they go is not gatekeeping. There’s no gate here, just a bunch of people with sticks drawing lines on sand and seeing where the others drew their lines.
Depends on the sandwich. If you’re constructing a sandwich without using heat, I would consider that “making lunch” or “making dinner” but not explicitly cooking. I’m not sure that the difference matters in any significant situations, though. Why are you asking?
Why are you asking?
Boredom.
hm, no, because it is baking instead.
Care to elaborate? Other than toasting it, how do you consider it baking?
the bread is the lynch pin of the sandwich. You can do whatever you want with the rest of the ingredients, but the bread must (usually) be baked.
Fair enough. Do you still consider it baking if your bread comes in a bag from the grocery store?
The question is inadequatly phrased. You must describe what kind of sandwich we are speaking of. Unless op is speaking about cold sandwiches exclusively, many sandwiches require cooking.
Croque Monsieur
Grilled Cheese
Cubano
Monte Cristo
Panini
These are just a few that I came up with off the top of my head. I’m sure there are many more.
I guess that it depends on context? Typically I wouldn’t call it cooking, as it doesn’t involve applying heat to the food. But if I were to teach a kid how to cook, then I’d consider it cooking - as teaching them how to prepare a sandwich would be a good start.
So… we started with waffles and baking. They get to mix the batter and dump things into the bowl, and such.
Though the first thing my nephew made without help was mac and cheese- everything was from scratch, the sauce and the pasta. It might have taken him… uh… hours… to roll out the pasta by hand, but eh, you are allowed to have fun with your food.
If anyone hasn’t, making pasta is not that difficult. I wouldn’t say there isn’t a place for dry pasta; and it’s certainly more convenient, but if you’re interested don’t feel intimidated. (though, if you don’t have a pasta machine, I’d suggest something like Orecchiette; but there’s plenty of other shapes that don’t require a machine or rolling out in the video,)
Mixing batter and preparing pasta seem like great starts, too. The general idea is to not let the kid handle anything with heat or sharp knives until they’re old enough to “respect” the danger behind those things.
My own initiation was whisking mayo (where I live it’s traditional to prepare a potato-mayo salad on Sundays). Then when my nephew was young I kind of tried to teach him how to prepare some onigiri (he already liked them better than sandwich), with already cooked rice and fillings, but he was a bit too lazy to do it, and a bit too eager to eat the ingredients.
Absolutely, on the safety. Another thing to look out for is mixers and other machines.
though, they’re big and scarry enough sometimes they don’t need a warning… but eh… yeah. Those things will take a finger without even noticing.
