Tiba al-Ali’s death has sparked the call for change for violence against women in Iraq.

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    This is why religion should be stamped out world wide. Faith always overrides common sense. Any rational human will tell you that killing your own daughter is abhorrent behavior.

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      Like all of them, really. I dream of a day when all people realize neither of those bullshitty made up stories even make sense and will stop believing in all of religion.

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        People like religion because it brings community. It allows people to create a shared knowledge which people have a way to connect and understand how people want to be treated. You honestly could do this with anything. You largely see it in the Linux community now though. Linux is religious like that.

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      Just like any religion. This has nothing to do with Islam. It has everything to do with extremist zealots who exist in every religion. Even Linux.

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      And considered not premeditated and only a 6 month sentence. I don’t know what sort of premeditation theory they have in Iraq but you cannot act in the heat of the moment without any thought when someone is asleep. In the states that is premeditated murder without any doubt.

      Edit: To give an idea how low the bar is in the states, I was on a jury that convicted a man of premeditated murder who strangled a woman. At first I was going to vote against it, but after reviewing the ligature I noticed the killer tied it off. That implied a level of thought that pushed into premeditation, because he took the time to realize she might not die if he released the pressure and he wanted to ensure she did.

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        The father most likely has connections somewhere with the police or up the chain, and was able to get a story crafted. Hopefully after the uproar they will increase the sentence and punish those who collaborated.

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            With enough uproar, the government will do whatever to silence it. It wouldn’t be the first time a middle Eastern government responds to protests like that.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Tiba’s death sparked protests across Iraq about its laws regarding so-called “honour killings”, the case highlighting how women are treated in a country where conservative attitudes remain dominant.

    When asked about the response of authorities to the killing, Gen Maan said: "Security forces dealt with the case with the highest standards of professionalism and applied the law.

    For instance, in Article 41 of Iraq’s penal code the “punishment of a wife by her husband” and “the disciplining by parents… of children under their authority within certain limits” are considered legal rights.

    Article 409 meanwhile states: “Any person who surprises his wife in the act of adultery or finds his girlfriend in bed with her lover and kills them immediately or one of them, or assaults one of them so that he or she dies or is left permanently disabled, is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding three years.”

    Female rights activist, Dr Leyla Hussein told the BBC: "These killings are often rooted in misogyny and a desire to control women’s bodies and behaviour.

    Ala Talabani, head of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan’s bloc in the Iraqi parliament, said: “Women in our societies are hostage to backward customs due to the absence of legal deterrents and government measures, which currently are not commensurate with the size of domestic violence crimes.”


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    Why are so many of the comments blaming the concept of religion, or the specific religion of Islam… Rather than blaming the dad for being a murderer?

    This dude murdered his daughter. He doesn’t get to hide behind an excuse. He doesn’t get to say “religion/culture/whatever made me do it”

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      Because religion is still the brainwashing machine that set it in motion.

      Saying that it’s all because religion and not blaming the father is stupid, but so is ignoring the importance of religion as a control tool.