The reason cited by the mods is misinformation. Not supporting violence, or any other reason. Saying that Luigi isn’t the shooter is considered misinformation and trolling.

In America, the law is innocent until proven guilty. But on lemmy.world, the rule is guilty until proven innocent, and anyone saying the accused is innocent is a troll.

  • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
    288·
    3 months ago

    Some people in this thread are probably going to ask why Luigi is innocent. It’s a valid question, so let’s answer it here: The weapon was a 3D printed disposable gun. They’re meant to be thrown away as soon as they’re used. The shooter did dispose of a bag full of monopoly money, but the police say the gun wasn’t disposed of. That doesn’t make any sense. The shooter wouldn’t carry the gun across state lines and then hang out in McDonald’s with the murder weapon and a manifesto. Luigi says the evidence was planted, and his story makes more sense than the feds’. Maybe the feds are telling the truth, but when it comes to “reasonable doubt”, there is some very reasonable doubt that Luigi did it.

    EDIT: mods removed another comment:

    • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
      152·
      3 months ago

      have you considered that luigi is just a normal person with the gall and had problems in his plan? i think it’s reasonable to keep a manifesto in hopes of its publishing

      when it comes to “reasonable doubt”, there is some very reasonable doubt that Luigi did it.

      or maybe that was the goal

      either way, you should not be claiming this as if it were true. it’s only a possibility right now

      • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Also he may not have planned on living. Everyone is questioning why he didn’t Jason Bourne his way into obscurity but he may just have hit the end of his plan, sat down, and got a sprite

      • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
        142·
        3 months ago

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/crime/general/luigi-mangione-s-lawyer-says-he-s-100-presumed-innocent/ar-AA1vGtJl

        Attorney Thomas Dickey tells KDKA Radio’s Marty Griffin, “Under the law, he is 100 percent presumed innocent and that’s the way it is.” Dickey says that “if and when (Mangione) is charged with any offense, his plea will be not guilty.” The attorney says, especially when it’s a high-profile case, the public needs to remember everyone is presumed innocent until a conviction.

        Dickey was also asked about the alleged manifesto that was allegedly written by Mangione. “Well, first of all, I haven’t seen that . . . there’s a thing called the rule of completeness. And what that is . . . evidence that is inadmissible for a lot of is not only unreliable, but it’s not allowed to come in because the law says so. And most of that is constitutionally based.”

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgm987p8xz3o

        “I don’t even know if this is him,” his lawyer, Mr Dickey, said in a recent interview with US media outlet NewsNation, referring to images of Mr Thompson’s killer.

        https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-luigi-magiones-attorney-says-852317

        Dickey added that he “hasn’t seen any evidence [Mangione] is the shooter,” adding: “I have not seen one scintilla, one speck, one drop of any evidence yet. So, it’s what I decided, I think, was in our best interest to do today.”

        • ggppjj@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          3 months ago

          Ghost gun does not mean 3D printed. It’s a very frustrating new connotation, as someone who would very much like people to stop assuming 3D printing people all print out guns or whatever.

          Ghost gun means it isn’t traceable in the same way that non-ghost guns are, be it because the serial has been filed off or never existed or what have you.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
            53·
            3 months ago

            Good point.

            “As of right now the information we’re getting from Altoona is that the gun appears to be a ghost gun, may have been made on a 3D printer, with the capability of firing a 9mm round,” NYPD Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenny said Monday. “Obviously, that will come out during our ballistics testing.”

            According to the Pennsylvania criminal complaint filed after Mangione’s arrest, officers found a black 3D-printed pistol and a black 3D-printed silencer in a search of his backpack. CBS News obtained the photo below showing the weapon police say was found.

            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghost-guns-what-to-know/

            Drag isn’t sure what to believe, whether the gun was 3D printed or not. The report says yes but the chief says maybe.

            • ggppjj@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              3 months ago

              I’ll be happy to change my tune when the trial sets out the facts, these facts at least aren’t overly-controversial so I have no reason to distrust them when the come out in court. Mostly just a decade-long hobbyist watching regulations come out of NY already (background check for a fancy automatic hot glue gun, wow that sure is saving kids good job) that set them against 3D printer ownership in general and becoming frustrated with the connotation and how it taints perceptions of my fun cool hobby. I wouldn’t be surprised if the chief is just saying buzzwords that play well to the media based off of misunderstood reporting by his subordinates that then gets spun into “he totally 3D printed 50 guns” or whatever.

      • dtrain@lemmy.world
        53·
        3 months ago

        His lawyer, bruh!

        Swears that this is the most injusticy injustice that our courts have ever seen.