• Forester@pawb.social
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    21 days ago

    I’m not him, but technically anybody who isn’t an authoritarian is a libertarian. Economic theory is Left Right. Freedom is up down. It’s a spectrum.

    Though apparently I’m one of the minority libertarians as I believe in egotistical altruism. Caring about the planet etc.

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      21 days ago

      You contradict yourself in the first paragraph.

      It is a spectrum, which is why “anybody who isn’t an authoritarian is a libertarian” is not true.

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            21 days ago

            You either like authority or you don’t. That’s binary. How much you like or dislike it is the spectrum.

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              20 days ago

              Do you not understand what a spectrum is? It cannot be both binary AND a spectrum. Those two things are mutually exclusive. Bimodal perhaps (though I don’t think it is in this case), but not binary.

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                  19 days ago

                  Gender is also a spectrum, do you agree? So are you saying that means that if you’re not a man, then you’re a woman?

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                    19 days ago

                    I think you have gender and sex confused. I also think that you’re an authoritarian in denial spiraling and reaching for any straw to grasp or goal post to change to. Gender is not binary. It’s fluid. But what would I know I’m just, the bisexual furry that you’re responding to.

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              20 days ago

              Or you appreciate authority in some matters, but reject it in others. That’s the point in the spectrum that rejects the simple binary.

              Edit: just realised both my last posts were responding to you. I’m not stalking or weird shit I swear! It just happened I woke up with more opinions!

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                  It’s a bit more nuanced than that irl. You may think rule of law is important and appreciate the authority of the courts, for example. Or you may think that someone had to pass the laws and appreciate the authority of the legislature in that regard. Institutions without authority are pointless, but they’re not all inherently authoritarian unless you stretch that adjective to breaking point

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                    17 days ago

                    Anti-authoritarianism A belief system that opposes authoritarianism, which is a form of social organization that favors obedience to authority. Anti-authoritarians often believe in civil liberties and equality before the law.

                    Aka I will live a moral life even if it is illegal.

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          21 days ago

          Any assertion in chart form must be true!

          Edit: ok now that I’m getting downvotes I feel I need to explain: the conventional usage of the word libertarian is not commensurate with it covering such a wide range of the political spectrum. Usually we mean people who favour mildly anarchistic views (minimal governmental institutions, low taxation, low intervention). Representing that niche as half of the political spectrum is highly disingenuous

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            20 days ago

            the word libertarian literally does mean what I’m telling you though . What your experiencing is that your personal definition is not matching up with everyone else’s reality. You’ve just been misinformed and have only been exposed to a subset of libertarian ideals . To put this in an analogy it’s like if I said truck and you assumed I was talking about a Ford F-350 when in fact I’m referring to all trucks. From tiny k trucks to 18 wheeler big rigs

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              No, what I’m experiencing is the conventional meaning of the term as used by people in normal language not matching up with a technical definition that you favour. It’s fine that you prefer to use the word that way, you just can’t expect everyone else to

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                Lol at that person’s reply: “No, but the chart says it’s true!”

                These people have some desperate need for neat little boxes, each with their own designation, to put themselves and others into, and that’s just not how the world works.

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                  19 days ago

                  Lol, most of the axis didn’t even have labels. The reductionism is obviously silly, but presenting the classic 2D model as if that was actually how words are used is genuinely hilarious

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                    18 days ago

                    I’m not glad you think it’s funny that you were not properly educated in political terminology and political science.

                    :(

                    your teachers failed you.