more adventures on rednote mostly because it’s entertaining how mad people get when i talk about it :3 /halfjoke

this was posted 12/31 btw so i don’t think “the mods haven’t gotten to it yet” is a real thing

#le is common in parallel to the anglosphere’s #wlw which i think is adorable

my number one qualm with little red book so far is there is no native translation like tiktok has. lots of google translate is necessary to get the social media to social :P

necessary disclaimer: fuck the CCP and all the real violence and repression they do. just want to give credit given where due, and so far here im just seeing a lot of assumptions with no evidence? so im gonna post what my experience is :) i welcome all to do the same

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    The level of shortsightedness in people is astounding to me again and again. History really seems to always repeat. When will people ever learn that there is no company in the world that is their friend.

    “Oh, but it looks fine and i havent had any issue” says the little user that is currently feeding the networking effect of the next platform, that will inevitably fail in exactly the same way as every other for profit social media.

    “Oh, but everyone is here and i dont wanna switch again” says the little user that now has the choice between losing all their feeds and follows or staying on a platform slowly being squeezed for money or political incentives.

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    It probably would be possible to make an app to translate it, since all the images are sent unencrpted over http, just need to grab all the links using wireshark or something and then open them all in Google lens… until they rate limit you I guess.

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      In the time since I made this post, Xiaohongshu has already added a native translate button for text posts and comments.

      Images are less of a big deal since:

      a) Memes and jokes originally written in Mandarin often don’t make sense when translated anyway (i.e., puns, cultural references).

      b) English-speaking users have generally agreed to hold each other accountable so that when they post English content, they include both English and Mandarin subtitles out of respect for the fact that they are “intruding.”

      c) When worst comes to worst, iOS lets you translate text from screenshots natively (it takes a few taps but works), and Android lets you do it instantly with screen-reading translation apps.

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    From what I’ve seen, a lot of queer people are afraid to be themselves there. Some may even experience backlash and threats of violence for being LGBTQIA. There’s a lot of hostility to us across that entire nation tbh.

    On top of that, there is constant scrutiny with mass state surveillance. Queer and POC may be silenced or even face imprisonment for expressing themselves. And don’t forget that nation’s concentration camps, genocide, torture of political prisoners, and barring people who don’t toe the party line from residency and citizenship.

    Oh wait, that isn’t Red Note. That’s the USA and my small town.

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        There’s no such thing as a benevolent state, to be honest. Nations and borders only divide and subject us. Every day, I feel more sure that we need to build communities in spite of states and to do what we can to disrupt and abolish them, so thank you for mentioning this glaring example.

        However, I will say when we in the US point at China, we’ve got three fingers pointing back at us. Pretty hypocritical of us, and largely racist.

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          I meeaannn… of course the US has an imperial bone to pick with the other imperial nations. So the same attitude and conditioning to “other” the competing nations applies equally to Russia and china. So I think I have to disagree on your point that there is inherent racism in the china conditioning. Does racism get borne out of the antagonistic relationship? Of course. But everything said about china is said equally (at least in spirit) about Russia.

          And you’re absolutely right, there is no benevolent state. A state’s first and only goal is to sustain itself and secondly to increase is standing. And I’m def with you that we need to not let borders come between the global working class.

          My whole point is there is a tendency on the more communist-leaning left to reverse the conditioning by just swinging all the way to the other side. “The US is bad, china/Russia is better.” They’re both equally imperialist, they’re both equally exploitative, and they’re both equally heinous. It’s absolutely a mistake “western” leftists make to embrace the other superpowers in an attempt to denigrate their own. It’s necessary to remove that lens when we discuss these kinds of issues to see the entire picture, because swinging to the other superpower nations and embracing them as better is such a limiting (and incorrect) way to think about it. It’s a simplified first step in realizing your home nation is wrong. Going against them for being wrong should not mean embracing their equally wrong counterparts.

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            I mean, the US is pretty substantially worse than China, by almost any metric.

            And if you think it’s not a racial issue with China, I think you have some investigating to do. You obviously haven’t spent time on mainstream White Supremacist platforms such as reddit, Facebook, or the comments threads on any mainstream news article. Oh wait, I also see it here on Lemmy. There’s a constant othering of Chinese people in a way there’s not of people in Russia. (I even find it curious that Russia seems to appear out of nowhere in any conversation about China for no apparent reason, hmmmm… now why is that?)

            That’s why Xiaohongshu/Red Note has been so illuminating for people. It’s been nice for me. Answering questions about each other’s languages and judiciously sharing pictures and videos has been cool, but I already know and talk to people from China, and my dad taught social studies. For many people, this is their first realization that we’ve been fed racist propaganda all our lives.

            Now yes, people could react by romanticizing the state of China itself, after seeing the many ways in which it is better than the USA, but they will learn. And I hope the most important lesson they learn is that, as you said, states are made-up tools of the oppressors that only exist to divide and subject, to protect the state for the state’s sake, at our expense. Always at our expense.

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              China has no LGBT marriage rights and no protections against discrimination, how is that better? How is having fewer rights to be myself the preferable option in your view?

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                You really have your head in the sand if you think the US state is protecting us and can say this within the month that bipartisan anti-trans legislation was signed, not to mention all the bills that have been introduced that are poised to set us back further than Stonewall era.

                Now please stop making me defend the Chinese state. I hate the government of China as I do any state lol. I just think it’s a far better system than the US government by almost any metric.

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                  China still has fewer protections than theUSA. Pretending otherwise is foolish. The laws are easily available for you to compare.

                  If you think China is a far better system ypu haven’t lived in an authoritarian culture…yet.

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          Now ask if you can be in a gay marriage in China (nope).

          Ask if it is completely legalto be fired just because you are gay (yup).

          China isn’t good on LGBTQ+ rights

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            Neither is the US. Have you been paying any kind of attention?

            We had to throw bricks, go to prison, and die in public to get what little we have in spite of the state, and the second we got the tiniest shred of equity, they’re working on oppressing us even more than before Stonewall.

            You’re talking to someone who’s been explicitly terminated from a job explicitly for being gay. Legally. With no uncertain terms that was the reason.

            Not to mention my queer ass will just fucking die next time I can’t afford life-saving healthcare.

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              I can get gay married in the USA. There currently are legal protections against discrimination in the USA. The USA is without question a better nation for LGBT+ rights than China.

              You have legal recourses available to ypu in the USA if your claim is true. There are none in China.

              Healthcare is not free in China either. It’s almost as if theyare really terrible at pursuing leftism.

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                China doesn’t have millions dying each year from lack of access to healthcare, and every single person on Xiaohongshu is learning how shockingly bad it is here in the USA, while we are unlearning the Red Scare propaganda we’ve been fed. I suggest you join us.

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                  They used to have shitty healthcare but the government put efforts to change that because they were embarrassed to be the second wealthiest nation and have such poor outcomes.

                  Regardless they are absolutely less free than the USA and are undisputedly worse on LGBT+ rights according to their legal codes. There’s no propaganda here. The Chinese government does not grant equal rights.

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      sinophobia so real that people going to see whats going on and reporting back looks like astroturfing to you

      careful homie, i understand your mindset but it can lead dangerous places

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        As someone who speaks the language (poorly) and has been several times and has family in China, I can concur this post feels a bit cringe.

        China is not a champion of LGBT rights. It’s tolerated in the cities, but if that’s the thing you care about most then the west in quite a bit farther ahead on the issue in general.

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          China is not a champion of LGBT rights. It’s tolerated in the cities,

          You can literally say that about America right now as they’re rolling back our rights as we speak.

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            No, you can’t yet say that about America right now. We are very concerned it’s headed that way, but we’re not there yet. There are actually laws in place to protect LGBTQ+ folks still.

            But yes… The biggots are trying a fresh wave of cruelty, and one of their worst is about to take power.

            Still, as of right now, America is lightyears ahead of China in this area.

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              It’s really not from where I’m sitting in Australia. The main difference between the two is that the US has far less centralised laws. So you do have states where trans rights are solid, but then you have states like Florida, which is far worse than China where trans rights are just not really talked about.

              I seriously would not boast that it is lightyears.

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                Yeah, vermont is ahead, Florida is way behind.

                But more importantly, I think you could find public sentiment of hunting trans people for sport in the US a lot faster than you could in China despite there being more people.

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      I was paid $30,000 USD for this post by Mark Zuckerberg himself. He told me he wants every foreign app to be permabanned from the US internet so we all have to move to Threads :3

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    Well whoever said CCP will censor LGBT content doesn’t know much about the CCP.

    On the other hand try posting anything critical about the Chinese government…

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      Chinese writer sentenced to 10 years in prison for homoerotic book

      A Chinese novelist has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for writing and distributing homoerotic novels, provoking widespread debate online over the severity of her sentence.

      The female writer, surnamed Liu, but more commonly known by her internet pseudonym Tianyi, was arrested in 2017 following the success of her novel “Occupy,” according to reports in Chinese state media.

      The book was described by police in East China’s Anhui Province as depicting “obscene sexual behavior between males” set to themes of “violence, abuse and humiliation.”

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        He wrote porn, full stop. Creating pornographic content is an offensive, regardless of content or audience. But good work posting a sensationalized version of events that happens to align with us state dept propaganda.

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          *she

          If you find pornography offensive, that’s a you problem. Well, unless you’re a government. Then you make it other people’s problem. Honestly, this reminds me of shitty US politicians. You’re not denying it happened though.

          The CCP doesn’t censor anything, except when it does, but it’s the author’s fault then.

          Every government, “western” or “eastern” that moves to limit access to pornography or other sexual expressions moves in a militaristic direction.

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            Sorry, confused this one with others in the same sweep.

            Yes, all pornography is banned. Turns out that’s what the people voted on. Sucks if you like porn but minority rule isn’t a thing in China.

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          Creating pornographic content is an offensive, regardless of content or audience

          What the actual fuck?! Where… do people with such a surreal worldview even come from?!

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            …that was nearly the entirety of the worlds view for most of post printing press history. But in this case a majority of China’s citizens felt pornography was offensive, so it’s now illegal. Not enough people care to introduce or vote in legislation to make it legal.

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              Not enough people care to introduce or vote in legislation to make it legal.

              lol, not enough people vote in a dictatorship or protest against the dictatorship to make it legal.

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                China has a robust democracy where every citizen can vote. It’s a dictatorship of the proletariat. The reason you think differently is because you’ve never talked with someone that’s ever been to China, much less a citizen of China, so you internalized racist propaganda.

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                  :KEKW: its sad that you actually think that, but no, a one party system is, in fact, not a democracy

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            That’s fine, let’s see how that worked out in the US… Oh, porn addiction is rampant through the population, but especially among teens leading to widespread mental health issues, social isolation, and low dating and marriage rates all while reducing respect for women among men and increasing internalized patriarchy among women.

            Yeah, seems like porn maybe isn’t something that should be allowed to be disseminated. Sorry a majority of an entire country, more people than exist in your country, choose to not share your addiction.

            I hope you migrate to a competent civilization so you can get the mental healthcare you need; as you likely have no ability to afford it in your country.

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              I for one look forward to the day I get to fight for my freedom to jack off to depraved shit.

              I’m going to watch the most fucked up Brazilian fart fetish porn right now and think about you. 🍆

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      Yes I am being payed by the CCP to promote lesbianism

      (sarcasm. the CCP is hatefully repressive to queer identities.)