@ashton1593@lemmy.sdf.org is spreading a disinfo campaign trying to rebrand horrible ideas as “not nazi.” I don’t know where else to warn people about this. We are pushing for an instance ban, but the admin at SDF tends to be slow to reach.
Edit: Look at the modlog. I beg of any instance admin that sees the ban and removal reasons alone, including a ban reason of “tranny” , I hope to hell they break your instance rules. You should instance ban this moron to keep the spread down.
Edit 2: It has been more than a day now with not even a “We will look into it.” kind of reply from the admin. It may be time to look into defederation. We are effectively abandoned.
Edit for an update:
Help spread the word on this, we need instance admins all over to help stop this asshole.
CC:
dbzer0 admins
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com @RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com
lemm.ee admins
@EllaSpiggins@lemm.ee @sunaurus@lemm.ee
lemmy.blahaj.zone admins
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone @supakaity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
beehaw.org admins
@remington@beehaw.org @alyaza@beehaw.org @Gaywallet@beehaw.org @Lionir@beehaw.org @Penguincoder@beehaw.org
pawb.social admins
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sh.itjust.works admins
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discuss.online admins
@jgrim@discuss.online @lazyguru@discuss.online @m_f@discuss.online @Rooki@discuss.online @MrKaplan@discuss.online
lemmy.world admins
@ruud@lemmy.world @Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world @Rooki@lemmy.world @kersploosh@lemmy.world @MrKaplan@lemmy.world
I apologize for pinging all of you, this is a serious issue and it’s faster to ping like this than to message everyone individually.
We banned him a few hours ago. In the future, please at least navigate to the major servers and check their modlogs before pinging the admins.
Admins usually notify other admins fairly quickly about stuff like this. But in this case the other admins (myself) aren’t going to know if the user had already banned by one of our colleagues, so we end up having to check multiple times.
It’s all good though, I appreciate your urgency.
Oh I see, sorry I didn’t check sooner. I’ll try to check the modlog next time (hopefully there isn’t a next time).
There will be. You can check https://matrix.to/#/#defense:lemmy.world
why didn’t you tag anyone from the instances you call the “tankie triad”?
Saw that troll, banned his community, and him ages ago
There is a reason that nazi trolls try to conflate communism with fascism and it is because those that you insult with “tankie” are the first and last line against nazi infiltration. So consider the consequences of your and those who think like you brigading the lemmyverse with anti-communist propaganda.
edit: The above is something to consider when “Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.”
So by limiting yourself to state/company sponsored disinformation you are stating your acceptance of individual level misinformation, like the user this post is referring to.
Dismissing a person based on an opinion you have reached by consuming anti-communist misinformation is a clearer display of “disinformation” than any of the nebulous claims of “state-sponsered” astroturfing on lemmy.
This is the same person who was a part of wolfballs, rammy, explodingheads, and now sdf. Yet all the users that complain about “tankie triad” are silent on the people that have proven through actions they have ill-intent for the lemmy-verse. Whereas lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and hexbear.net have contributed to the project materially.
What the hell? Why are you making random unfounded bad faith accusations towards me. I pinged the ones that came to mind, mainly the ones I know and also are admins of the ones I’m part of.
In case you’re wondering the reason I didn’t ping hexbear or lemmy.ml is the same reason I didn’t ping literally any others than the ones listed. They didn’t cross my mind when I was thinking of teams to ping.
You really need to work on not inferring bad faith in others’ actions and pouncing on them preemptively. It makes it seem that your actions are in and of themselves in bad faith.
CC: @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I am basing this in the fact of your message, the instance with the program in the name that you contribute code to was not on your mind?
I don’t care what other people/instance admins think you have poisoned the well enough, but I know that hexbear coders patched the image-based jwt exploit that made the rounds a year ago on lemmy-verse, we’ve provided upstream code and participated in the cross-instance admin discussion groups to help prevent this very thing until the amount of vitriol directed at the “tankie triad” was more than any actual benefit the rooms served.
I’ve been very level-headed so saying I’m screeching, or pouncing is engaging in bad-faith way more than anything I’ve done, not to mention the years long vendetta you have against the “tankie triad”
Maybe if you endeavoured to build solidarity between lemmy instances instead of sowing dissent you would cease to jump at phantoms you label “bad-faith”
This type of behavior you are engaging in right now with me is absolutely in bad faith.
If you think that jumping on me and accusing me of omitting instances from my mentions intentionally, and overall having a hostile tone towards me with zero provocation is “level-headed” or “good-faith” then we have some very different definitions of those terms. You have not acted level headed from the moment you replied to me, and frankly your behavior towards me has been extremely hostile. You haven’t acted in good faith since you first replied to me.
I mean, your earlier comments in this exact thread look to be spreading disinfo:
“most tankies don’t jump straight to the transphobia”
This seems to imply that some do jump straight to transphobia while others are still transphobic, but less obvious about it.(ie they don’t jump directly for transphobia but end up there eventually.
Is that the implication you intended? because I can see why that would piss off an admin on one of the instances with the biggest trans communities on Lemmy.
Either way you were literally posting about “the tankies” on this thread but then at the same time they “didn’t cross your mind” when it came to asking people to address the original issue. Looks like bad faith behavior to me.
Yeah the implication is that tankes don’t gravitate towards transphobia which is why I think it is a troll who’s fucking with us or trying to get attention or hurt people.
I’d agree that it looks like some Nazi trolling, the transphobia makes it stick out like a sore thumb.
It oftentimes takes me a few passes to get what people mean too. I was mostly trying to point out why I could see reasoning for her to come in hot in the thread.
yeah I guess I can kind of see how that can be misinterpreted now. I guess it goes to show how different people can read things completely differently in their head.
That’s not disinformation at all
You seem to be implying that this is impossible, which is a ridiculous thing to think
I was pointing out how a reading of the statement made could be that they were saying that all tankies are transphobic, some less open about it. That’s a reading which is pretty inflammatory considering how a large portion of the trans community active on the fediverse is on “tankie” instances. The “tankie” instances also have had the strictest rules against transphobia out there.
So I would say that yes, the likelihood of all tankies’ being transphobic (some sneaky about it) is near zero based on observable reality in this universe.
Also as discussed with draconicneo, that wasn’t even the original intent behind the statement anyways, so I don’t see why you need to rehash as if it was.
OK so you forgot to include the flagship named instance that you provide code for and included instances with less than 30 active members as a mental mistake. My furry in Christ, I’ll forgive you when you stop spreading disinformation on the fediverse.
I don’t know what you expect me to do here by pinging me.
Just wanted to bring attention to this hostile bad faith behavior which doesn’t seem like something that is welcome here in this community. Also the fact that he’s lashing out over reports due to his uncivil behavior:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37004617/16455785
I’m not a mod of this comm. But in any case, hostile bad faith from hexbears is sort of their default against anyone who they don’t perceive to be in their camp.
That is true. I did ping Unruffled as well, so we’ll see what he thinks about it. Should probably ping @PugJesus@lemmy.dbzer0.com as well. His lemmy.world account won’t be able to see it, but his dbzer0 one should.
Hey buddy, don’t take anything Carcosa says too seriously, they were just here to cause pointless drama.
Yeah I figured as much, they weren’t contributing anything meaningful to the discussion. The fact they had to make up lies proves they had no intention of engaging in good faith at all.
“How can I make this about me?”
-Average Tankie Triad User
As an instance admin I replied to a comment pinging instance admins to ask why me and other common instances were not asked.
The user being discussed is intentionally engaging in disinformation on the fediverse by conflating communism and fascism.
So it is relevant to me both as a lemmy admin and as a communist.
Thank you for your very important contribution, I await your apology for the disinformation you spread across the lemmy-verse.
Are you aware of Martin Niemöller’s quote? Consider this when you wonder why Nazis work to spread this disinformation regarding those that stand against them first.
He was only pinging the important ones.
Oh my god, I just realized I didn’t ping ani.social either. It’s almost like I just pinged a handful of instances’ admin teams and didn’t ping all instances out there. This idea that CARCOSA has that I am deliberately omitting instances from my pings for nefarious reasons is very stupid indeed. They’re just looking for reasons to flip out at me and others and just start drama in general. 🙄
@CARCOSA@hexbear.net You should really reconsider your understanding of me as a person. You clearly don’t understand me or what I stand for if you’re willing to fling such accusations at me because I didn’t include all instances in my pings 🙄
Thank you for bringing it to our attention, already banned from Lemmy.world, will communicate with the other admins to see if more action is warranted.
I don’t mean to backseat moderate but is a 7 day ban really the best option in this situation as opposed to a permanent one with content removal? I mean this isn’t an average scenario, this is an extremist user spreading hate and disinformation, and for that they get only a 7 day ban?
This is a temporary measure until I can discuss it futher with the other admins. I think they’ll agree a perma-ban is warranted.
Ok that’s good to know. I sure hope they do.
Just a follow-up, they are now perma-banned. Thank you (:
Glad I could help.
Thank you king/queen/chief!
It’s good they’re now banned
Geen probleem, mnr/mvr/overig taalnazi.
Hijacking this useful ping to say that I absolutely would not hold a grudge over defederation due to this. We can’t get in touch with the admin. They are likely asleep. Please remember, though, that aside from this BS, it is just a quiet nerdy instance full of Unix lovers.
Edit: autocorrect typos
Me neither. If the mods don’t respond to or address this issue by tomorrow I will begin advocating defederation from lemmy.sdf.org because if they aren’t willing or able to moderate hate speech, then they aren’t a safe instance to be on or be around.
Yeah, seems like they need a spare emergency admin or two in different time zones. Hell, every instance that doesn’t require approval to create communities needs those, imo
Most instances with a larger userbase really need to have a 24 hour team, “mods are asleep” should never happen on a server with a large userbase. The disruptions that can cause in cases like this are unacceptable.
It is a bad look for a non-profit that does some genuinely cool stuff.
Yeah it definitely is. They should be way more attentive when it comes to moderation, as well as maintenance of their services. I still remember having to beg them to update from 0.19.2 to 0.19.3 because the instance was broken and not federating (couldn’t even log in) it was so difficult to get them to do that. They did do it but it shouldn’t have been anywhere near that hard.
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Contact the admins at dubvee.org they have a system of cross instance banning and tracking down to an art form. That’s assuming you can contact them if you are not banned.
I didn’t think to reach out to them since they’re a smaller instance, they likely don’t even see this whole thing happening. This is more an issue for the bigger admins since they’re the ones who will ultimately stop the spread. So I didn’t really want to bother them with something that they probably can’t even see.
You could talk to me instead of making comments via reports lol
I am asking in good faith, if protecting the fediverse is so important why didn’t you ping lemmy.ml, hexbear, or lemmygrad admins?
Read the reply I wrote you. Like actually wrote you. Not the report I wrote to this community’s mod team and this instance’s admin team for lashing out at me and accusing me of omitting instances in bad faith.
Is it a bad-faith accusation when it is the truth?
It’s a bad faith accusation when you baselessly infer or imply malicious intent. Emphasis on baselessly.
How is it baseless when one can observe your profile? There one can see the amount of bad-faith accusations you place at the feet of the “tankie-triad” as you call it
This is starting to sound like sealioning…
Oh really, now who is engaging in bad-faith?
Starting with using emotive language and now making this accusation when I asked a question and explained the relevance to the community ethos. Countering disinformation in the Fediverse was the goal of my comment. Conflating communism and Nazism is a propaganda technique as old as the ideologies themselves.
I’m not spreading disinformation, now you’re just straight up lying about my actions and intentions. So with that, we’re done here. Enjoy your community ban.
Appreciated!
Appears they’ve already been dealt with.
Nope, I looked on lemmy.sdf.org and it does not appear they have. Nazi shit is still there. So since it’s been a day without any response I think it’s time we started defederating from lemmy.sdf.org at least until we get updates on the situation. After all this idiot could have more sockpupets there we don’t know about.