@ashton1593@lemmy.sdf.org is spreading a disinfo campaign trying to rebrand horrible ideas as “not nazi.” I don’t know where else to warn people about this. We are pushing for an instance ban, but the admin at SDF tends to be slow to reach.
Edit: Look at the modlog. I beg of any instance admin that sees the ban and removal reasons alone, including a ban reason of “tranny” , I hope to hell they break your instance rules. You should instance ban this moron to keep the spread down.
Edit 2: It has been more than a day now with not even a “We will look into it.” kind of reply from the admin. It may be time to look into defederation. We are effectively abandoned.
Edit for an update:
Nazis GTFO.
Lot of trolls floating in lately. Got that stupid catfishing message a couple days ago in my DMs.
Seems that the current president cosplaying as king has emboldened the most toxic conservatives to crawl out of the woodwork.
I remember that happened in 2017 too, so we can probably expect them to get bored and fuck off somewhere else sooner or later
Wait, the catfish happened to a bunch of people? Thought it was just a few, I ignored it when I got it.
Weird right?
I think the catfish was targeting active commenters based on the post a bit ago about it.
Huh, that’s strange. Why active users specifically? Telling me to touch grass?
Probably easy to find usernames by just opening a post I’d guess
Touching grass is never a bad idea though
Yea lol, was a joke more than anything.
Lemmy probably needs a “Report Community” feature that goes to the Admins of the instance.
But I can say, the Admins are aware.
Isn’t there a button that does that already?
Yep. Can confirm. I did update the post with a screenshot of the modlog.
Oops I missed that! Anyway glad it’s dealt with.
Help spread the word on this, we need instance admins all over to help stop this asshole.
CC:
lemm.ee admins
lemmy.blahaj.zone admins
beehaw.org admins
@remington@beehaw.org @alyaza@beehaw.org @Gaywallet@beehaw.org @Lionir@beehaw.org @Penguincoder@beehaw.org
pawb.social admins
@crashdoom@pawb.social @natebluehooves@pawb.social @itsOasus@pawb.social @southernwolf@pawb.social @Spitfire@pawb.social
sh.itjust.works admins
@TheDude@sh.itjust.works @kersploosh@sh.itjust.works @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works
discuss.online admins
@jgrim@discuss.online @lazyguru@discuss.online @m_f@discuss.online @Rooki@discuss.online @MrKaplan@discuss.online
lemmy.world admins
@ruud@lemmy.world @Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world @Rooki@lemmy.world @kersploosh@lemmy.world @MrKaplan@lemmy.world
I apologize for pinging all of you, this is a serious issue and it’s faster to ping like this than to message everyone individually.
We banned him a few hours ago. In the future, please at least navigate to the major servers and check their modlogs before pinging the admins.
Admins usually notify other admins fairly quickly about stuff like this. But in this case the other admins (myself) aren’t going to know if the user had already banned by one of our colleagues, so we end up having to check multiple times.
It’s all good though, I appreciate your urgency.
Oh I see, sorry I didn’t check sooner. I’ll try to check the modlog next time (hopefully there isn’t a next time).
There will be. You can check https://matrix.to/#/#defense:lemmy.world
why didn’t you tag anyone from the instances you call the “tankie triad”?
Saw that troll, banned his community, and him ages ago
There is a reason that nazi trolls try to conflate communism with fascism and it is because those that you insult with “tankie” are the first and last line against nazi infiltration. So consider the consequences of your and those who think like you brigading the lemmyverse with anti-communist propaganda.
edit: The above is something to consider when “Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.”
So by limiting yourself to state/company sponsored disinformation you are stating your acceptance of individual level misinformation, like the user this post is referring to.
Dismissing a person based on an opinion you have reached by consuming anti-communist misinformation is a clearer display of “disinformation” than any of the nebulous claims of “state-sponsered” astroturfing on lemmy.
This is the same person who was a part of wolfballs, rammy, explodingheads, and now sdf. Yet all the users that complain about “tankie triad” are silent on the people that have proven through actions they have ill-intent for the lemmy-verse. Whereas lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and hexbear.net have contributed to the project materially.
What the hell? Why are you making random unfounded bad faith accusations towards me. I pinged the ones that came to mind, mainly the ones I know and also are admins of the ones I’m part of.
In case you’re wondering the reason I didn’t ping hexbear or lemmy.ml is the same reason I didn’t ping literally any others than the ones listed. They didn’t cross my mind when I was thinking of teams to ping.
You really need to work on not inferring bad faith in others’ actions and pouncing on them preemptively. It makes it seem that your actions are in and of themselves in bad faith.
I am basing this in the fact of your message, the instance with the program in the name that you contribute code to was not on your mind?
I don’t care what other people/instance admins think you have poisoned the well enough, but I know that hexbear coders patched the image-based jwt exploit that made the rounds a year ago on lemmy-verse, we’ve provided upstream code and participated in the cross-instance admin discussion groups to help prevent this very thing until the amount of vitriol directed at the “tankie triad” was more than any actual benefit the rooms served.
I’ve been very level-headed so saying I’m screeching, or pouncing is engaging in bad-faith way more than anything I’ve done, not to mention the years long vendetta you have against the “tankie triad”
Maybe if you endeavoured to build solidarity between lemmy instances instead of sowing dissent you would cease to jump at phantoms you label “bad-faith”
This type of behavior you are engaging in right now with me is absolutely in bad faith.
If you think that jumping on me and accusing me of omitting instances from my mentions intentionally, and overall having a hostile tone towards me with zero provocation is “level-headed” or “good-faith” then we have some very different definitions of those terms. You have not acted level headed from the moment you replied to me, and frankly your behavior towards me has been extremely hostile. You haven’t acted in good faith since you first replied to me.
You have not acted level headed from the moment you replied to me, and frankly your behavior towards me has been extremely hostile. You haven’t acted in good faith since you first replied to me.
I mean, your earlier comments in this exact thread look to be spreading disinfo:
“most tankies don’t jump straight to the transphobia”
This seems to imply that some do jump straight to transphobia while others are still transphobic, but less obvious about it.(ie they don’t jump directly for transphobia but end up there eventually.
Is that the implication you intended? because I can see why that would piss off an admin on one of the instances with the biggest trans communities on Lemmy.
Either way you were literally posting about “the tankies” on this thread but then at the same time they “didn’t cross your mind” when it came to asking people to address the original issue. Looks like bad faith behavior to me.
Yeah the implication is that tankes don’t gravitate towards transphobia which is why I think it is a troll who’s fucking with us or trying to get attention or hurt people.
I’d agree that it looks like some Nazi trolling, the transphobia makes it stick out like a sore thumb.
It oftentimes takes me a few passes to get what people mean too. I was mostly trying to point out why I could see reasoning for her to come in hot in the thread.
your earlier comments in this exact thread look to be spreading disinfo
That’s not disinformation at all
This seems to imply that some do jump straight to transphobia while others are still transphobic, but less obvious about it
You seem to be implying that this is impossible, which is a ridiculous thing to think
You seem to be implying that this is impossible, which is a ridiculous thing to think
I was pointing out how a reading of the statement made could be that they were saying that all tankies are transphobic, some less open about it. That’s a reading which is pretty inflammatory considering how a large portion of the trans community active on the fediverse is on “tankie” instances. The “tankie” instances also have had the strictest rules against transphobia out there.
So I would say that yes, the likelihood of all tankies’ being transphobic (some sneaky about it) is near zero based on observable reality in this universe.
Also as discussed with draconicneo, that wasn’t even the original intent behind the statement anyways, so I don’t see why you need to rehash as if it was.
OK so you forgot to include the flagship named instance that you provide code for and included instances with less than 30 active members as a mental mistake. My furry in Christ, I’ll forgive you when you stop spreading disinformation on the fediverse.
I don’t know what you expect me to do here by pinging me.
Just wanted to bring attention to this hostile bad faith behavior which doesn’t seem like something that is welcome here in this community. Also the fact that he’s lashing out over reports due to his uncivil behavior:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37004617/16455785I’m not a mod of this comm. But in any case, hostile bad faith from hexbears is sort of their default against anyone who they don’t perceive to be in their camp.
That is true. I did ping Unruffled as well, so we’ll see what he thinks about it. Should probably ping @PugJesus@lemmy.dbzer0.com as well. His lemmy.world account won’t be able to see it, but his dbzer0 one should.
Hey buddy, don’t take anything Carcosa says too seriously, they were just here to cause pointless drama.
“How can I make this about me?”
-Average Tankie Triad User
As an instance admin I replied to a comment pinging instance admins to ask why me and other common instances were not asked.
The user being discussed is intentionally engaging in disinformation on the fediverse by conflating communism and fascism.
So it is relevant to me both as a lemmy admin and as a communist.
Thank you for your very important contribution, I await your apology for the disinformation you spread across the lemmy-verse.
Are you aware of Martin Niemöller’s quote? Consider this when you wonder why Nazis work to spread this disinformation regarding those that stand against them first.
As an instance admin I replied to a comment pinging instance admins to ask why me and other common instances were not asked.
He was only pinging the important ones.
Oh my god, I just realized I didn’t ping ani.social either. It’s almost like I just pinged a handful of instances’ admin teams and didn’t ping all instances out there. This idea that CARCOSA has that I am deliberately omitting instances from my pings for nefarious reasons is very stupid indeed. They’re just looking for reasons to flip out at me and others and just start drama in general. 🙄
@CARCOSA@hexbear.net You should really reconsider your understanding of me as a person. You clearly don’t understand me or what I stand for if you’re willing to fling such accusations at me because I didn’t include all instances in my pings 🙄
Thank you for bringing it to our attention, already banned from Lemmy.world, will communicate with the other admins to see if more action is warranted.
I don’t mean to backseat moderate but is a 7 day ban really the best option in this situation as opposed to a permanent one with content removal? I mean this isn’t an average scenario, this is an extremist user spreading hate and disinformation, and for that they get only a 7 day ban?
This is a temporary measure until I can discuss it futher with the other admins. I think they’ll agree a perma-ban is warranted.
Ok that’s good to know. I sure hope they do.
Just a follow-up, they are now perma-banned. Thank you (:
Glad I could help.
Thank you king/queen/chief!
It’s good they’re now banned
Geen probleem, mnr/mvr/overig taalnazi.
Hijacking this useful ping to say that I absolutely would not hold a grudge over defederation due to this. We can’t get in touch with the admin. They are likely asleep. Please remember, though, that aside from this BS, it is just a quiet nerdy instance full of Unix lovers.
Edit: autocorrect typos
Me neither. If the mods don’t respond to or address this issue by tomorrow I will begin advocating defederation from lemmy.sdf.org because if they aren’t willing or able to moderate hate speech, then they aren’t a safe instance to be on or be around.
Yeah, seems like they need a spare emergency admin or two in different time zones. Hell, every instance that doesn’t require approval to create communities needs those, imo
Most instances with a larger userbase really need to have a 24 hour team, “mods are asleep” should never happen on a server with a large userbase. The disruptions that can cause in cases like this are unacceptable.
It is a bad look for a non-profit that does some genuinely cool stuff.
Yeah it definitely is. They should be way more attentive when it comes to moderation, as well as maintenance of their services. I still remember having to beg them to update from 0.19.2 to 0.19.3 because the instance was broken and not federating (couldn’t even log in) it was so difficult to get them to do that. They did do it but it shouldn’t have been anywhere near that hard.
Feel free to donate and collaborate!
Contact the admins at dubvee.org they have a system of cross instance banning and tracking down to an art form. That’s assuming you can contact them if you are not banned.
I didn’t think to reach out to them since they’re a smaller instance, they likely don’t even see this whole thing happening. This is more an issue for the bigger admins since they’re the ones who will ultimately stop the spread. So I didn’t really want to bother them with something that they probably can’t even see.
You could talk to me instead of making comments via reports lol
I am asking in good faith, if protecting the fediverse is so important why didn’t you ping lemmy.ml, hexbear, or lemmygrad admins?
Read the reply I wrote you. Like actually wrote you. Not the report I wrote to this community’s mod team and this instance’s admin team for lashing out at me and accusing me of omitting instances in bad faith.
Is it a bad-faith accusation when it is the truth?
It’s a bad faith accusation when you baselessly infer or imply malicious intent. Emphasis on baselessly.
How is it baseless when one can observe your profile? There one can see the amount of bad-faith accusations you place at the feet of the “tankie-triad” as you call it
This is starting to sound like sealioning…
Oh really, now who is engaging in bad-faith?
Starting with using emotive language and now making this accusation when I asked a question and explained the relevance to the community ethos. Countering disinformation in the Fediverse was the goal of my comment. Conflating communism and Nazism is a propaganda technique as old as the ideologies themselves.
Appreciated!
Appears they’ve already been dealt with.
Nope, I looked on lemmy.sdf.org and it does not appear they have. Nazi shit is still there. So since it’s been a day without any response I think it’s time we started defederating from lemmy.sdf.org at least until we get updates on the situation. After all this idiot could have more sockpupets there we don’t know about.
Startrek.website has banned the user and blocked/purged the communities.
Quick correction: Domain is
lemmy.sdf.org(fix missing period)Thanks. I hate typing on my phone.
sdf.org needs a backup admin that is reachable badly.
I’ve emailed, tooted, and tagged the admin on Lemmy. I am fumbling through a BBS post in my phone. I can do no more except let people know to block this Nazi and please don’t think the SDF instance appreciates or tolerates this Nazi BS.
100% fuck this guy. We just love unix and floppies and shit.
I agree, they really do. I don’t have too much hope for them otherwise. Even getting them to update their instance when it was on the broken 0.19.2 Lemmy version was like pulling teeth. They’re ridiculously hard to contact. I was thankfully able to get that resolved but wow… I’m glad I didn’t choose it as my primary instance.
I’m disappointed that such a user is on the same instance as I. Thanks for raising the alarm. I’m hopeful the folks in charge take action.
Yeah, I saw that guy recently and blocked the communities that he seemed to be running.
I then tagged him as “Conservative Dickhead” in Voyager, though I’ll be updating that to be simply “Nazi”.
Tomato, tomato.
Yeah, at first I want to give the benefit of the doubt, but after reading here I decided to just spell it out for myself
Might as well have some pizzazz though. Naziwanker? Schutzstaffelcockmuncher? Adolf Rimjobber?
I thought about it, but if I am going to call someone a Nazi, I don’t want to make a joke about the situation.
Gallows humour. They don’t play by the book, so why should you?
A good old Jewish saying, “they tried to kill us, let’s eat”. They are a hateful ignorant evil nuisance, nothing more, but they should be called out for it.
I gotta start tagging the trolls/non trolls. Guess I’ll start with you. Ally 😀💜
Thank you, I don’t know if I did anything that valuable, but I do appreciate it!
I just had a look at his profile again, and he keep posting shit, but so far seems to be mostly only posting new actual posts on his own communities on lemmy.sdf.org
Those communities are:
conservative
saynotogroomers
libsoftiktok
saynotonazis
I can’t be arsed to link properly, and don’t want to drive traffic to them, but these are the current communities on lemmy.sdf.org, where he is most active.
A quick look at their comment and post history shows that they hate:
Trans people
Anime
Star Trek
Star Wars
…do they know they’re on Lemmy…?
Well since they seem at least ambivilant on linux, perhaps not?
(Kidding, kidding.)
Liking Linux but hating trans people is diabolical work. At least 25% of the userbase wear pink, blue and white thigh highs.
Seems like it might be the same asshole who spammed Rammy.site in the past and flooded it with hateful garbage.
Okay wow so it’s been almost 24 hours. The admin’s last post was a year ago. Has anyone had contact with them since? What are the chances this instance is just running derelict?
Hoping I am wrong! But if I’m not SDF users might want to consider to start migrating. If the admin can’t be reached at all the next step other admins are gonna take is defederation.
SDF is a very old, esteemed community that has existed long before Lemmy and the Fediverse.
24 hours is normal by its measure.
Yes I do understand that. Nevertheless SDF needs to come to terms that it is integrating with a much more dense and active community by hosting a Lemmy instance and act accordingly.
I don’t think this is the right attitude. Just do a coordinated ban on the user and their communities. If one can’t ban a community from one instance on another - then this is a technical flaw to be solved. Maybe some kind of 2/3 vote system to do those coordinated bans, too, so that people with personal life keeping small instances could keep up.
But then in my personal humble opinion any federated model is flawed. And then NOSTR is inconvenient, because it’s everything in the same place - microblogging, video streaming, something like Reddit/Lemmy, and I fear to see a new tab in Amethyst every day. Also I don’t like that its protocol is designed around web technologies - websockets+JSON. But maybe that’s wise, it’s a bit less likely to be easily blocked.
It sounds like your position is based on a disagreement with the system as a whole, which is fair. But I am working within the realistic bounds of the tools currently at hand.
Not even a reply to anything on Mastodon or e-mails. I think I may nuke this account and all of the content in protest.
definitely not what you want to see in that position of power
Thanks for the heads up.
You are welcome. I’d recommend not looking at the local feed for a while.
It’s a troll, and one of several I have seen over the last couple of days. There isn’t much to go on now, but they could just be lost tankies or a single troll with multiple accounts that is just trying to get a rise out of people.
My bets are it’s a single troll. Most tankies don’t go straight for transphobia.
I agree! I saw their posts and was disgusted.
