• bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      The anti-zionists I know are not antisemitic, and I have not seen them be antisemitic.

      Sometimes I see people say a statement is antisemetic, such as “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free,” or something else with a similar meaning. That is not an antisemetic statement. It is against the state, not against the people, nor is it against the religion or ethnicity, and the two are not equal. Any attempt to equate the two is an attempt to silence people who are against the actions of the state, which is usually what I end up seeing.

      Sure, you can say something that is both, but I almost never see people do this.

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        1 year ago

        The anti-zionists I know are not antisemitic, and I have not seen them be antisemitic.

        Pretty interesting how blind you are to your own confirmation bias.

        Since I’m in a bad mood, I’ll point it out to you.

        If you are not antisemitic, likely you do not tolerate being around antisemitic people. Therefore the anti-zionists you know are not antisemitic.

        I, on the other hand, was born in the state of drunken alligator fights and hookworm, where 60% of the population is antisemitic AND anti-zionist, so I have seen it many, many times.

        but I almost never see people do this.

        Then you should learn to appreciate the fact you don’t live in the middle of the deep south and the culture that surrounds you is a lot more sane and reasonable than a good chunk of the nation actually is.

        For example, the ‘Jewish space laser’ conspiracy theory is BOTH antisemitic and anti-zionist.

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        1 year ago

        Agreed, there is a legitimate way to criticize the Israeli government that isn’t tied to race.

        The antisemite says “They are monsters because they are Jews”

        The anti-zionist says “They are monsters because they act inhumanely towards civilians”

        The antisemitic anti-zionist says “They act inhumanely towards civilians because they need to gather precious child blood for their (((rituals)))”

        But the problem here is that there are a FUCKTONNE of antisemites that want to hide in the crowds of the anti-zionists for ideological cover.

        On the OTHER hand, I’ve never seen an anti-zionist hide in the crowds of the antisemites for ideological cover unless they also harbored racist misbeliefs.

        It’s pretty easy on the face to tell the difference, but even that level of nuance is beyond the understanding of so many people.