Antizionism is not antisemitism
True, but also they can exist in the same statement, and often do.
The anti-zionists I know are not antisemitic, and I have not seen them be antisemitic.
Sometimes I see people say a statement is antisemetic, such as “From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free,” or something else with a similar meaning. That is not an antisemetic statement. It is against the state, not against the people, nor is it against the religion or ethnicity, and the two are not equal. Any attempt to equate the two is an attempt to silence people who are against the actions of the state, which is usually what I end up seeing.
Sure, you can say something that is both, but I almost never see people do this.
The anti-zionists I know are not antisemitic, and I have not seen them be antisemitic.
Pretty interesting how blind you are to your own confirmation bias.
Since I’m in a bad mood, I’ll point it out to you.
If you are not antisemitic, likely you do not tolerate being around antisemitic people. Therefore the anti-zionists you know are not antisemitic.
I, on the other hand, was born in the state of drunken alligator fights and hookworm, where 60% of the population is antisemitic AND anti-zionist, so I have seen it many, many times.
but I almost never see people do this.
Then you should learn to appreciate the fact you don’t live in the middle of the deep south and the culture that surrounds you is a lot more sane and reasonable than a good chunk of the nation actually is.
For example, the ‘Jewish space laser’ conspiracy theory is BOTH antisemitic and anti-zionist.
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Agreed, there is a legitimate way to criticize the Israeli government that isn’t tied to race.
The antisemite says “They are monsters because they are Jews”
The anti-zionist says “They are monsters because they act inhumanely towards civilians”
The antisemitic anti-zionist says “They act inhumanely towards civilians because they need to gather precious child blood for their (((rituals)))”
But the problem here is that there are a FUCKTONNE of antisemites that want to hide in the crowds of the anti-zionists for ideological cover.
On the OTHER hand, I’ve never seen an anti-zionist hide in the crowds of the antisemites for ideological cover unless they also harbored racist misbeliefs.
It’s pretty easy on the face to tell the difference, but even that level of nuance is beyond the understanding of so many people.
yeah, poor israelis! let them do their genocide in peace you antisemites!
Thank you, corporate arm of US pro-genocide propaganda, very cool.
Something something Parenti quote…
During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.
If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.
—Michael Parenti, Blackshirts and Reds
Fuck off. Anything I see that claims “anti-antisemitism” is Israeli propaganda. Israel is the most anti-Semitic nation in the world today, if you are anti-Israel, you cannot be anti-Semitic.
Based antizionism
Probably because their government wants the people to feel anger towards Israel and the West in general. It makes it easier to mobilize them. They are preparing for a major conflict with the West and we are doing the same. We are all on the brink of a global war. Hopefully, it never comes to that. At a minimum, it’s looking like a Cold War with proxy wars and massive military buildup is ahead of us.
