Sorry if the premise is inflammatory, but I’ve been stymied by this for a while. How did we go from something like 1940s era collectivism or 1960s era leftism to the current bizarro political machine that seems to have hypnotized a large portion (if not majority) of the country? I get it - not everything is bad now, and not everything was good then. FDR’s internment camps, etc.

That said - our country seems to be at a low point in intellectualism and accountability. The DHHS head is an antivaxxer, the deputy chief of the DOJ is a far-right podcast nutball, etc. Their supporters seem to have no nuance to their opinion beyond “well, Trump said he’d fix the economy and I don’t like woke.”

Have people always been this unserious and unquestioning, or are we watching the public’s sanity unravel in real time? Or am I just imagining some idealistic version of the past that never existed, where politicians acted in good faith and people cared about the social order?

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    I blame the Left becoming TOO tolerant of all beliefs and allowing this direct to flourish. We really need to acknowledge that some ideas are too far out of mainstream to not be ridiculed into oblivion.

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      And this is why the Left can’t win.

      It’s too obsessed with purity and infighting to focus on the true enemy.

      The fascists, on the other hand, focus on the true enemy, then focus on purity and infighting!

      I should’ve put a /s at the end. The joke was too good.

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        Most leftists are unarmed finger waggling sign-holders.

        We spent the last thirty years making gun control a priority, making anywhere near a blue state or democrat controlled city impossible to buy a gun, making democrat/Leftist protests just impotent and likely helped with police training rather than change policies or influencepoliticians tonl protect LGBTQ.

        Meanwhile Bubba and his redneck Republican states allowed him to have his ergonimic advanced arsenals delivered to his front door from online purchases at cheaper prices.

        And if you, whoever you are casually scrolling by this random nested comment, as a Leftist who wants to rebuke me, prove it by posting a pic of your gun. That’s right, you don’t have one and can’t protect our trans folk if they needed our help, you think fascist cops would do that. GTFO of here.

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    People who seem reasonable still say there are good people on both sides. I don’t understand that at all! My hairstylist moved here from vietnam as a kid. Last week i made a comment about bezos and he actually said, “both sides…”. I thought my brain was going to pop.

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      They’re talking about the moderates on both sides. I can probably assume you aren’t.

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    No child left behind + Unregulated social media + 60 years of social and economic regression in rural areas = USA #1. !!!??

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    Here in United States we always used to think Europeans were stupid.

    And it’s not like it’s prejudice from people never leaving their hometown. Nope, actually TV shows and movies make Europeans look way smarter than they are.

    Nope, the conclusion comes from people that met real Europeans, either in Europe or in the US.

    Last time I saw a European in Baltimore he was asking for dirty water in his drinking glass. The most barbaric thing I’ve seen in a while 😂

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    Dude get off lemmy. Go outside, talk to your neighbors.

    Nothings changed, we’re still a giant group of humans. Only your perception has changed.

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      We’ve never elected a felon rapist who attempted to overthrow our government before.

      So clearly something has changed.

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        We still haven’t. He’s not a felon, and he’s not a rapist. You should really actually read the articles instead of the headlines.

        Funnily enough, there’s been rapists in office before, like Bill Clinton, a democrat.