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      19 and 16 are “young” children? Not to mention the fact that he was separated from his wife and his contact with them was limited. Unlike with hundreds, if not thousands, of parents he killed with his policy of denying coverage.

      The obvious fellating of the ruling class by the mainstream media is annoying as fuck.

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        Nearly 26.6 million people in the U.S. rely on UnitedHealthcare Employer & Individual through insured and self-funded plans. In addition, we serve more than 7.5 million people with care and benefits services outside of the United States.

        Rather than hundreds to thousands, I’m going to go with thousands to tens of thousands.

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        How about a new rule… You don’t get to call them young children if you think that they are old enough to work long hours at a hazardous job without breaks, or that they are old enough (by 2 or more years!) to be married to a 60+ year old pervert. You lose all moral standing to call them “young children” if you do.

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          Well, yeah. But they’re not even bothering to pretend to be a separate Fourth Estate any more.

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      I guarantee as that piece of shit bled out on the sidewalk, the words “why me?” didn’t cross his minds. He knew what he did to deserve it. He did deserve it, as do countless other greedy mother fuckers who are ruining the world for personal gain.

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        If anything went through his head other than possibly a bullet, it would not shock me at all if “why me” or “what did I do to deserve this” was there. No one with intact empathy or a conscience could do what he did. If he was capable of recognizing his failings he wouldn’t have been willing to earn his wealth by stepping on the necks of the sick.

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      That’s crazy they can actually say that he was an innocent man and actually believe it. The level of mindfuckery required for that is absolutely unfathomable.

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        More workers than soldiers at this point

        I have a friend who studies behavior but applied to employment systems. Tons of research there on getting the most out of your employees. This sounds terrible when you first hear it right? But when you read it it’s about not burning out staff with reasonable quotas and demands, using positive reinforcement, building morale, etc. basically that you might decrease output slightly now but you’ll increase retention of the staff and the staff will overall be much more satisfied

        They reject this in basically every industry even though it’s evidence based. It’s easier to burn people out and churn through workers. Meanwhile humanity stays poor and miserable for the most part (aside from a small percentage that makes out like bandits)

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          Right? Tons of studies show that treating your employees well is way more profitable than treating them like shit. Even from a capitalist perspective, it’s stupid to not treat them well.

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            Well it depends. If you want quality staff delivering quality service/making quality products then yes it is. You have to spend a ton of money onboarding and training them so burning them out is foolish because you just burn cash

            However, if you are fine with delivering a poor or mediocre service/product (the bare minimum), you can slash training and onboarding costs to the bare minimum. Your staff will be even more resentful because now they will struggle.

            But as long as you have a huge pool of workers clamoring for jobs you can keep this going and even do so with abusive conditions (demand 100% efficiency, constant overtime, insane quotas, etc). Just burn them out and when they crash pick another resume from the pile

            I was talking to someone the other day who works in the tech industry. They had a coworker who died on a Friday and they were replaced on a Monday. There was no fanfare or grieving. It was just “okay, that’s a bummer, here’s his replacement”

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            that assumes the point is something other than cruelty. the wealthy need us to suffer so that they can justify being wealthy as being a protection from suffering

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            trader joes and costco treat thier employees well, i believe thats why its kinda hard to get jobs there. because people arnt leaving. WHolefoods was like that before amazon bought it.

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      In this case it’s just the rich punishing a plebeian for daring to challenge them, in the hopes of they make his punishment terrible enough everyone else will be too scared to rise up.

      But in answer to you astute observation that the ‘pro-life’ people love the death penalty, the reason is simple: to these people, being ‘bad’ isn’t something you do, it’s something you are.

      So to them it’s not a break in internal logic at all. They gave the pure, innocent baby a chance, but they turned out to be a Bad Person, so they must be punished, because that’s what you deserve for being a Bad Person.

      This is why they favor punitive jailing and killing criminals instead of trying to reform criminals; criminals are Bad, and so they will always do Bad Things.

      It’s also why they do stuff like try to get rid of abortion. If a woman got pregnant from ‘sleeping around’ then she’s a Bad Person and deserves to be punished by carrying the child to term.

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        To further your point, this is how shit like Al Franken happens.

        In general conservatives see themselves as generally good people who occasionally do bad things but it’s okay because that’s still a good person who has good intentions. Whereas in their eyes people who are in out groups are bad people who are always going to do bad things no matter what because they have bad intentions.

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            He was quickly ousted from his position as a popular and respected Minnesota senator during early #metoo, for accusations that you’d never imagine a Republican resigning over, allegations in fact that have failed to take out other more core-party Democrats (Andrew Cuomo comes to mind, he still has a millionaire warchest and is running for NYC mayor this year with full support of the DNC). Democrats fall easily for the virtue olympics.

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        It’s a perversion of Christianity.

        God can commit genocide and torture because His actions are beyond human understanding. God is the creator of Goodness, so every action he does is Good by design. I personally view God only as Good because he is powerful, but I view Jesus as Good in a more genuine and human way.

        The powerful like to take the parts of religion that allow them to live in a simplified world. A world in which they are Good, like God, not by action but by power and nature.

        They forget that sinning applies to the powerful, just like it applies to the weak. Everyone deserves to be forgiven in Christianity, but only after you’ve paid for your sins. People like the “being forgiven” part, but not begging for forgiveness in a brown sack covered in ashes part.

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    How to make a martyr in 180 days?

    It’s really crazy we are literally living in a new type of world.

    The wealthy ARE the powerful, but the rest of us out number them to such grand extent that the only way they can remain wealthy is through fear and murder.

    There is no war but class war.

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      They did this to the anarchist assassins (And accused assassins) in the 1930s, too. Started summarily deporting people en masse for their beliefs or presumed beliefs, and executing people after brief appearances in kangaroo courts. Honestly if Germany hadn’t gone Nazi and basically dragged the us into a war with them, we would have done it instead.

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      No they can remain wealthy by being wealthy and enjoying their wealth and not obsessively doing everything possible to ratfuck everyone else with their wealth.

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    He should run for congress because there are no consequences for crime if you get elected before the justice system has time to convict

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    That corrupt piece of shit that dropped the trump University case for fifty bucks and a case of Boone’s Farm wants the DoJ to pursue the death penalty for a homicide. Sure. Best timeline ever.

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        Nah he’s still loved, I’ve seen Luigi prayer candles and grafitti plenty, he still receives massive amounts of fanmail. When the actual trial starts the fans will come out more.

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        This would be how you bring more attention to him than ever before. Also people are already really angry and prepared for violence if you look at the tesla fires. This would most certainly lead to a massive increase in militant action against companies, CEOs and politicians.

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          I can say from experience that in at least some corners of social media, (LW for example) the removal of “Luigi content” is strictly because a large amount of it is advocations of violence/murder/assasinaion.

          On many social media platforms, that type of content is against ToS because of the laws in the country that hosts the platform that the site is located in.

          It has little to do with personal opinion and everything to do with staying within the legal threshold of the region to avoid being shut down.

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    Whaaaaaaaaaaaat noooooooooooo, that can’t be right. Who other than every single person alive saw that coming?

    Hopefully, they will televise it and trump will say “You’re fired” right before they pull the switch. That would be on par with the shitshow circus we live in these days.

    Edit: added to the bit

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      The wealthy class in the US are heavily invested in military stocks. War benefits them, even if it’s civil war. This is probably intentional.

      Maybe I’m too cynical or giving them too much credit. Hope we find out

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        I expect more assassins targeting people who are not so high up on the facist totem pole. There was nothing special about Bryan Thompson, there are hundreds like him out in there. But he was high up enough for his death to matter. Honestly, he was like some dumb animal that got zapped climbing into a transformer.

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      The working class in America are so docile and subdued at this point that they won’t notice when all this happens.

      Death penalty would take several years to happen and by then people will have forgotten. Only a couple of remaining groupies will make a fuss.

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      The only way the current president can hang on for more than four years is to incite insurrection and then activate the insurrection act. All these ‘take it to the streets’ people might as well be shouting jump at a guy being pushed off a building.

      Targeted actions like Luigi don’t pass whatever bar this is, so those are the actions to be protected, promoted, and shielded from the authorities whenever possible.

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    Whenever I think of the Dylan Roof incident.

    The death penalty isn’t a punishment, who really learns from it, the criminal? It’s a tool for society to remove what amounts to a defective person (not human, person). People are supposed to value the lives of other people by default. Any sustained deviation from this norm is a symptom of a person who cannot value life.

    Dylan Roof was given 1000s of opportunities to demonstrate that he did actually value life but because of his defective nature there was no choose but to remove him.

    “Life in prison” can be canceled/pardoned/changed, death cannot. That is why it’s near impossible to make it happen and even if it does, people spend the rest of their lives waiting for their “execution” (ftr Dylan is still alive at this time source).

    Now in what possible world would you be able to convince a jury of random peers, or judges with their heads actually screwed on tight, that a sample size of one murder proves that a person is defective.

    Genuine responses only:

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      The prosecutor claims that he endangered others around the victim. But if you watch the video you can tell he clearly was careful to not cause harm to anyone else. He could have bombed him, done a drive-by or any other method but he shot him with single shots at a close range. If they go for the death penalty he’ll walk.

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        Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I believe it was documented somewhere that the Shinzo Abe assassin made a similar choice so as not to harm innocent bystanders.

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        "There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

        And if the out-group touches the in-group, the consequences shall be severe.

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    So they basically admit it is about revenge, not justice? How dare someone of the working class attack someone clearly superior! We must punish this worthless creature to put them into their rightful place at the bottom of the taxpaying pyramid!

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    This has a potentially significant chance of backfiring, as it is more difficult to get a jury to convict when the death penalty is at stake.

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    Oh that piece of shit, does she not understand this will make matters worse?

    She will turn him into a martyr, this administration is the dumbest I have seen in my whole fucking life.

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      It’s a ludicrous decision. I really dislike seeing him praised, he murdered someone and that’s not ok. Nevertheless, people see him as a hero and now she’s going to make that feeling more extreme.