If you've ever wondered why YouTube goes so hard on ads when they make the experience so miserable, well, there's your answer.
    • RobotZap10000@feddit.nlEnglish
      4·
      16 days ago

      I have to see them at school all the time, because our teacher’s teachers don’t bother installing adblockers.

        • Tiefa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          15 days ago

          Teacher here. My school uses everything Chrome OS and locks the ability to install extensions or other browsers. It’s not always us.

            • orclev@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              16 days ago

              At least German is consistent, unlike English where every so-called “rule” nearly has more exceptions than places it applies. As a native speaker I’m always amazed that anyone manages to learn our train wreck of a language.

              • Klear@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                15 days ago

                English has its pitfalls, but is in many ways incredibly simple.

                Plus it’s everywhere, and the best way to learn a language is to use it.

                • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
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                  15 days ago

                  English is 3 or 4 languages melded into one.

                  There’s the Germanic old English which gives most of the base language. This is mixed with Norse from the viking invasions. Then aristocratic French came in around 1,000 years ago. Underneath it all, some regions have Celtic influences.

                  Of course there aren’t consistent rules.

              • Vinstaal0@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                16 days ago

                Dutch is way worse than English regarding inconsistencies it’s not even funny.

                Sadly Dutch is adapting to make some thing “proper” Dutch which where never proper Dutch and sound wrong to every native Dutch speaker. Like “groter als jij” instead of “groter dan jij”.

                • Don Antonio Magino@feddit.nlEnglish
                  11·
                  15 days ago

                  I’m not sure what you mean here. As far as spelling goes, Dutch is far more consistent than English.

                  You’re mentioning some none-standard Dutch which is often perceived as incorrect (and it is indeed according to the rules of the standard language norm). Yet, if you were correct in your claim that ‘groter als jij’ was ‘never proper Dutch and sound[s] wrong to every native Dutch speaker’, no native Dutch speaker would ever use ‘groter als jij’. Native Dutch speakers do this often, though, and have been doing it at least since the seventeenth century (eg. this quote from 1670: ‘Zy [de vrucht ”Peci”] is niet veel groter als een kastanie …, vol sap en aengenaem van smaek: herder dan een gemeine appel, en een weinig zuurachtig,’ - ‘It [the fruit “Peci”] is not much bigger than a chestnut …, full of juice and pleasantly tasting: harder than a common apple, and a bit sourish,’).

                  Sorry to have gone so off-topic here, though.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    121·
    15 days ago

    “But we can’t pay our content creators! We’re a starving tech company! Niche stuff no one uses or has heard of! We needed to cut the money so they had to push scams!”

  • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    15 days ago

    And since they made so much while people are effectively using adblocker, there’s no need to fight them back, right?

    Right?

    • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      15 days ago

      It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money. Stock holders will pressure to fire the guy that does that.

      • TomAwsm@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        15 days ago

        It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money.

        It’s probably also about sending a message.

  • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pubEnglish
    6·
    16 days ago

    Ads didn’t make 10 billion, Google charged advertisers 10 billion. IMO ads have gone so pervasive they’ve hit a point of diminishing returns. They’re everywhere, we hate them, and those 10 billion spent would have to bring many more billions in sales to be an attractive service.

    I can’t wait for the ad bubble to burst, as advertisers understand they’re just giving money away to megaadvertisers for paltry conversions.

    • _wizard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      16 days ago

      I’m an admin in Google Ad Manager for a few hundred sites. Saying that to say I’ve read a lot of their documentation. They have a great graph showing this very concept. Less ads, less money, happy users. More ads, more money, unhappy users. They’re aware. They aren’t pouring the poison. They’re designing the pitcher and selling different size cups.

      • Microplasticbrain@lemm.eeEnglish
        01·
        16 days ago

        Can I dm you a question about google ad spending?

        Edit: ok jesus no ad questions 🤣, how do y’all think people promote their small businesses. I don’t advertise much but we’re all forced to live in this capitalist bullshit and while word of mouth helps if you have a tucked away location you need to pop up on google maps.

    • Wappen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      15 days ago

      Competition. It’s all about competition between companies. In highly saturated markets ads serve to build brand recognition and are seen as long term investment to gain market share. Good example is TikTok. The social media market is very much saturated and competition very high, so TikTok’s strategy was to buy every ad they could to create brand recognition, which in turn helped gaining market share.

      So I don’t think the ad business is a bubble at all, it’s just that the usefulness and function depends on the market a company competes within.

    • Vinstaal0@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      16 days ago

      Sadly I still see that ads benefit a lot of my clients. The more advertising they do the more revenue they get, but this is only for small to medium sized companies. However if every company in the world spends 100k on adverts on platforms like Google we would easily surpass the 10b.

      Dropshippers are the best example of this. No ads means no revenue.

    • Auli@lemmy.caEnglish
      11·
      15 days ago

      Companies wouldn’t buy the ads if they didn’t work.

  • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    16 days ago

    I say this every time the topic comes up, and I’m always downvoted for it but here goes again:

    YouTube is going to do this suit because YouTube CAN do this shit. It’s their company. They can enshitify it as much as they’d like. And they WILL enshitify it as much as they like as long as people continue to use it.

    How long have they been in existence now? 18-19 years? And with every year they gets worse and worse, while growing bigger and bigger. Why do you think that is?

    Could it be because they know that although everyone will bitch about them, complain about them, and write scathing tech articles about them- people will still gobble their shit up regardless.

    Don’t like what YouTube is doing? Maybe think about not using it. Because as long as you’re participating- either by creating content or viewing it- you are a big part of the reason they’re getting away with doing this shit.

    Downvote away.

    • superminerJG@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      16 days ago

      Let’s just say, unless YouTube crosses people’s bottom lines and there’s an alternative being actively advertised, people won’t move.

      Otherwise, they push that bottom line further.

      • kalleboo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        16 days ago

        The lack of alternatives where creators actually get paid for people watching their videos is the biggest problem.

        • FrostyPolicy@suppo.fiEnglish
          1·
          16 days ago

          Even youtube doesn’t pay the creators that much. Lois Rossman in a recent video showed some of his video in YT that had over 200k views and generated ~100 USD of income.

          • FrostyPolicy@suppo.fiEnglish
            1·
            16 days ago

            On a related note. Why would creators add sponsored segments/other sponsoring/patreon etc if YT pays them enough?

            spoiler

            YT doesn’t pay them enough. Unless your some kind of super star.

      • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        16 days ago

        Agreed. Seems there no floor to what people will put up with from them. I can’t understand it. I’ve tried products and services I found that I absolutely hated. I don’t have those products or services anymore.

        It’s pretty easy to not do something.

    • Auli@lemmy.caEnglish
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      15 days ago

      People well not pay for anything. I mean you can get YouTube premium without ads. But the vast majority don’t want it. And since no one well pay for anything how does a computer to YouTube make money?

      • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        15 days ago

        Shit tons of people are paying for it. And the ones that aren’t, are viewing ads- both of these things are a profit for YouTube.

        The only option you have is to not use the services at all. This is how you hurt them.

              • Kat@techhub.social
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                15 days ago

                @aeternum @technology Adguard blocks all advertisements on there. I’ve installed that, and I’ve never received a single one. As much as I wish I could simply mix YouTube for my life, I can’t, because too many of the folks who produce content up there use it as their only means of sharing that content with the world, so I’ve sort of struck a balancing act between watching the things I want to watch, Will still remaining conscientious of what the companies behind it are doing.

              • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                15 days ago

                At the end of the day, we’d all be better off if everyone just never used it again, because as long as people put up with what they do- the more they’ll do it.