It’s like Christmas. You don’t need to be popular all the time. Just in the month before it matters.
A bit late isn’t it?
no, he was never popular with gen z… they stole the fucking election
People like Joe Rogan, the tater tots, and been Shapiro have a large number of younger fans following them. Unfortunately, the fans listen to their political views far too often
I used to listen to Joe maga Rogan when I was young and lost. He used to motivate me to exercise and better myself. In 2016 when the orange guy ran, he started saying things like, “what’s so wrong with saying the n word?” He used to sound like he cared about people.Now he ridicules people who are different than him.
Shapiro just sounds like he’s glad he’s rich and he doesn’t care.
Hopefully this poisons the generation against Republicans for decades to come…
I know growing up in a conservative dominant government they definitely made it so I have never voted conservative in any level of government for the past two decades.
Sorry, but anyone dumb enough to vote for Donald Trump after witnessing his first term is too stupid to learn from their mistakes.
Can’t blame gen z too much since they were probably learning how to not wet themselves when Trump was first in office
I know this is hyperbole, but just to remind anyone who needs it, there are married gen z people with children.
Yeah, GenZ complaints have become the new “millennials are so lazy, they should just buy a house.” GenZ have graduated with their masters degrees and are in the same boat that millennials were in 20 years ago.
Gen Z barely got to know his first term, that’s probably why. Either in high school or college. Still a dumb decision, but at least it’s a bit less bad?
An common explanation for swinging voters is superficial contact with politics. People are too busy with other things in their life to put two and two together. As a result, they make superficial decisions based on current feelings.
I would think that schools also frequently fail, by not providing any tools for political analysis.
Sweeping generalizations aren’t true and don’t help.
I hear your point and I think about that a lot, actually. Yes, what I said above was pithy and judgmental, but I also think it has a vein of truth in it.
I’ve dropped friends over their support for Trump, precisely because they fail to see what I deem to be obvious character flaws in him. That they can’t see those flaws speaks to an enormous lack of psychological perceptiveness. Can they realize they made a mistake in voting for him? I think they can regret it when the things he does negatively affect them, but that doesn’t mean their ability to judge character improves. What I meant by my statement above is that my confidence in people with such critical problems in empathy to fix those problems is extremely low.
I hope that more extensive explanation of my point makes it clear I’m not simply dismissing an entire class of people under a stereotype. I genuinely think supporting Trump speaks to a severe problem in psychological appraisal that is not easily rectified.
This was helpful, the other statement was not.
I understand. But I still stand by what I said. Voting for Trump speaks to a severe problem in EQ if not IQ, and people with intellectual deficits that severe tend not to be able to improve upon them. More people voted for him his second time than the first. That alone speaks to their short-sightedness and short memory. There was also much more information available to them about his character and his tyrannical agenda for his second term. These are not smart folks and I do not have high hopes that they can learn from their mistakes. An anti-gay parent who only changes their stance when their own child comes out hasn’t really learned anything, they’ve just adjusted their behavior based on self-interest. These folks are no different.
No, that’s exactly not what’s should happen. This whole mess has its roots in the fact that everyone only cares about populism and partisanship.
The solution isn’t to blindly turn to the Democrats, because then the whole thing will tip right over in the other direction, which will be different, but not better.
What’s really needed is a reformed Republican party, that can offer real competition to the Dems, instead of pushing a platform of a popular liar to win elections, while dismantling the fabric of democracy and driving the country into a wall.
What surprises (and worries) me is that, for his popularity to plunge, he had to have it. So he was popular among gen z’s. How can someone that young think trump is a good choice is something I can’t fathom.
Because young people are gullible and weren’t paying attention when he was president before.
Source: I was a young gullible millennial who voted for him in 2016
He’s funny and “crazy” until he builds concentration camps on an unregulated island and start breaking our government to the point of no return.
He’s already mentioned sending illegal immigrants he can’t deport to Guantanamo, and already treats them basically like terrorists when deporting them.
They came of age during Trump’s first presidency, when he inherited a lot of gains made under Obama’s tenure. They saw things go to shit during Biden, who inherited both a pandemic and the consequences of Trump’s actions, and was a bit lackluster in dealing with them.
They simply didn’t have the life experience to see the bigger picture beyond that. Trump seemed like a good president because their lives were better during his presidency, but correlation does not equal causation.
Its certainly not just the kiddos who get tricked by that sleight of hand either. I feel like my whole life its just been a cycle of Republicans quickly fucking shit up, then a Democrat gets elected and rights the ship. Then because it’s not instantaneous the populace votes in another Republican that will fuck shit up again.
It looks like the Republicans know what they are doing because they can coast on a few years of the past administrations corrective measures.
He was extremely popular with GenZ men. They were hitting voting age during his first term, when they reaped all of the benefits of things like the rock bottom COVID interest rates. Many of them were able to buy houses fresh out of school, while the millennials before them were so bogged down by student debt that they weren’t able to get those low interest loans. And then they saw Biden fail to address (or at least fail to broadcast that he had addressed) virtually any of their concerns.
And all of that started while they were still barely 18, and lacked the knowledge to understand that many of Trump’s biggest wins were inherited from the previous administration, or that Biden had been handed a shit sandwich and was making do with what he had.
Social media and their engagement maximizing algorithms.
GenZ don’t watch TV or read print media so almost 100% of their news is getting filtered through an algorithm that has the sole purpose to keep them hooked. Hell, even search results are biased. One really has to go out of their way to get facts outside of a personalized feed.
GenZ are definitely not the reason we have a buffoon as a president and a psychopath as his controller. This article about GenZs changing their views says more about their willingness to think critically than all the older voters who have chosen not to despite the 2017-21 hell.
The education system spends a lot of our elementary years inducting us into the propaganda engine. We pledge allegiance to the flag and learn about how we won the west and how we beat off the British.
You slowly get ideas that that’s all kind of BS throughout school. Once you get out into the real world you get disillusioned if you’re lucky. You either follow the propaganda, or you think he’s just another in a long line of assholes. The American dream is a pipe dream you don’t love anything That’s likely coming for you in life so why not watch it burn, It seems to be pissing a bunch of people off which is an unexpected amount of power.
And it’s all perfectly fine right up until the point where you yourself are burning and scared for what little you’re given in life.
Podcasts are super popular right now. Theo Von, Joe Rogan, Kill Tony, Shane Gillis, Matt McCusker all have a huge audience. They are all pro Trump; Tony famously spoke at a Trump rally, and Rogan is constantly pushing a pro conservative message.
Social networks have all gone to the right, as their leadership stands to benefit. Most of our major newspapers and entertainment networks are also owned by billionaires.
They own the messaging right now, and people aren’t thinking critically because they are either distracted or don’t know how.
We need to get more young people listening to Robert Evans.
Part of it is that the left isn’t seen as fun. We’re too serious and judgmental all the time. Many times there’s good reasons for that but young people don’t want to constantly hear about taxation and proper pronoun usage. Talk about legalizing LSD or something once in a while.
And yes, I understand that the right isn’t fun in a way that most people would want to be but there is definitely something to be said for not gatekeeping language to an absurd degree. Let people express themselves without all the “well actually that’s ableist because…” interjections. People only listen to you a finite amount. If you burn through your educational goodwill on minor stuff no one is going to listen when you warn them about important stuff like fascists taking over the government.
Up until the week or two before Biden dropped out blue no matter who folks were talking about what a great candidate Joe was, even though he appeared to have dementia during the debate. Folks on lemmy were accusing me of being a Russian bot for criticizing Biden.
The Dems are a cult just as much as the maga folks…
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I don’t know if I was one, but I’ll own it. I’m not even a fucking Dem, I was (am) just that fucking terrified of President Trump. I didn’t think there was enough time to select another candidate, and I would literally rather elect a vegetable than Trump.
The only possible candidate was Harris, and I didn’t think we would rally to her as well as we did. I was wrong. I was wrong about a lot this election.
After Biden dropped out, I was all in on Harris. She was literally the only other option. But also, she was a damn good candidate for probably a month. Until she refused to distance herself from Biden on Gaza. But idk what happened behind the scenes. Probably big money pulled her aside and told her she’ll back his policies or lose $100m.
I don’t know. It didn’t matter. Maybe Kamala lost because she is a woman and some things America just isn’t ready for yet. Maybe she lost because she fucked up. Maybe it was the economy and no one but Trump was ever even in the running (honestly what I believe).
It certainly wasn’t Gaza alone. Demographics prove that. Didn’t even cost her Michigan by itself. But it was a blowout across the map.
I doubt Biden would’ve won either, so it didn’t matter. At the end of the day, him dropping out didn’t help us (maybe down ticket? Idk…)
I don’t think I accused anyone specifically of being a foreign agitator, except one person who very clearly was not American and trying to pass themselves off as American and was trashing Biden and immediately pivoted to trashing Harris (“the ONE person worse than Biden!” Right…).
But if I did in my desperate attempt to support whoever was running against Trump, then I apologize. Those were contentious times. Fighting times. Now we all just have to survive the next four years and help one another the best we can.
Fucking idiots…
I roll my eyes every time another “poll” declares something. They dont know anything.
these morons still won’t admit their support online and irl of the “from the river to the sea” people marching on every american city, taking over university commons, beating up jews, interrupting democratic candidates at campaign events, not only freaked out middle america, but all of it, every night, on cable and network news, during the spring and summer of an election year, suppressed the young democrat vote, while young republicans, arab, and latino americans voted for donald trump in larger numbers than have ever voted for any Republican candidate before in history. wonder if the lemmy euro admins and mods are starting to reconsider their “moderation” and support of leftists protesting jews in favor of islamofascist terrorists. they won’t admit it either. and now, we’re all fucked.
downvote it, moderate it, do whatever you like, politics doesn’t exist in a vaccum, every action has an opposite reaction. now, ukraine, as good as gone, trump is backing whatever putin wants, gaza going to be turned into trump casinos, hundreds of thoursands of real live human beings deprived of life saving safe food, clean water, and medications because usaid simply shuttered, the world economy about to suffer the worst depression since the 1920’s due to trumps reciprocal tarrifs, death and suffering on a scale no one has ever seen before.
elections matter, there was a binary choice between the coninuation of democracy under kamala harris and fascist dissasembly under donald trump, and democratic youth didn’t show up, and the lemmy crowd still, even now, won’t admit why that might have been the case
There’s no way you can get Gen Z to commit to the Nazi life. Lol. Too fucking lazy to be racist enough. That’s our saving grace…a bunch of fat asses. And I say we should celebrate that when this is over…the pizza act. Everyone will serve 1 day per month to the entire process of making fast food…from the GMO experiments, to planting and harvesting, and milking and cheese making, to cooking and serving this delicious American tradition. The end goal being the pizza rights act. As long as you have served, you’ll be entitled to a certain amount of government pizza. Hey, if you’re unemployed you got time to have pizza every day!
And why limit it to pizza, I say we include all facets of Americana eatery…artery clogging lard infested foods of all, including tacos.
