Version 2 of the European app alternatives. Feel free to share it :)

  • adbenitez@lemmy.ml
    1·
    1 day ago

    https://arcanechat.me/ is also European (Germany) and is decentralized, fully OpenSource, free/gratis and registration requires ZERO personal data! Everything is End-to-end encrypted between people, server can’t see any data which is encrypted and stored only temporarily on the server

  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
    81·
    2 days ago

    One thing that list shows me is that Google are incredibly good at what they do, and have a finger in almost every pie imaginable.

        • Alfredolin@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          True, but FOSS and free alternatives are very good too. I am amazed by Immich for example (Photos) or Organic Maps (Maps), Tuta (Mails) or Bitwarden (Pass). I have cut my ties with Google personnaly and try to get my close ones to follow but they are not always interested even if I propose the service selfhosted for free.

  • Sailing7@lemmy.ml
    2·
    2 days ago

    Took this post as motivation to try some out.

    Here WeGo: actually pretty intuitive! Better than OSMand and Organic Maps in terms of Car Navigation (actual Voice and not TTS Voice from android) and 3D sounds that you have to get used to but coule make listening to instrucrions in stressfull sitations easier. Also optional: speeding warning ring sound and shield head up-sound effects (yield, stop, train crossing, etc.) Each with a special sound so you might get better prepared for the next yield or stop sign since your NAV app told ya already that one is coming up soon.

    Deezer: Well some usability things annoy me. Also some problems with the android tv client…

    Bit the flow mode (random shuffle in genres or moods (happy, party, chill…) that also has a toggle if you want the shuffle be based of songs you have in your playlists/liked already or if you want to go on a jurney to find new songs.

    Pretty geat so far!

    Qwant: well the search results hit good. Dark theme is a lil worse than DDG’s dark theme but thats just preference. Some !bang searches are not available though. DDG has many more listed than Qwant. But we’re getting there!

  • GiddyGap@lemm.ee
    172·
    3 days ago

    It’s pretty telling that, as a European, I’ve literally not heard of any of those European alternatives.

  • icmpecho@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    2 days ago

    if you’re considering Qobuz, it’s amazing, and if you’re a student it’s quite affordable with their student plan.

    unrelated tool, for more technical folks <3

  • prinzmegahertz@lemm.eeEnglish
    211·
    3 days ago

    Peertube has this fediverse problem. You google it, go to the webpage and instead of getting a list of promoted videos, you get an explanation of what it is and a manual on how to actually join, starting with „select a pot“. You then get to search the list of pots that all have like 10 viewers and 5gb upload limit. I stopped at this point.

    That being said, i really would like an European youtube alternative, but not off the „provide your own hardware“ kind.

    • Kualdir@feddit.nlEnglish
      101·
      3 days ago

      Exactly my problem why I’m not really getting into Lemmy either, same with mastodon. The whole decentralization standing in the middle of it all is just annoying.

      Also yeah, Peertube did not even look like a competitor at all. Same with Threema with it costing 6 euros to use

      • kilonova@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        Yeah, it reminds me of that software Richard from silicon valley tv show made that was just so overly complicated. I’ve got to say the people who come up with these ideas are very intelligent, but it’s so overly complicated and not user friendly at all.

        • Kualdir@feddit.nlEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          They are too set on catering to the small minority that cares about the privacy/decentrilisation of it all while a normal user just cares about: Simply creating an account and using the service

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
    5·
    2 days ago

    I didn’t know Soundcloud was European. Been using them for a while, my only complaints are: lack of ability to report much of anything, lack of moderation, and a system that incentivizes poor quality uploads of popular songs to avoid automated detection.

    If you let it autoplay after picking a popular song you might get a list of bangers or you might get sped up trash uploads with an unfortunate high pitch tone that I imagine must have been outside of the uploader’s hearing range. Occasionally it plays some guy reading phonetic scripts like he’s just learning to read for the first time for an hour, but it made it into the list because it’s titled after a beatles song.

    • WormFood@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 days ago

      SoundCloud might be the single worst music platform out there, and that’s saying a lot given that Spotify exists. The audio quality is awful, everything is expensive and they double and triple dip artists and listeners. Yet despite the exploitative monetisation, they don’t seem to actually make any money and have almost gone bankrupt several times.

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        I certainly don’t plan to pay them anything, that’s for sure. I’m just out there looking for a stable mix of things I’ve never heard and some nostalgia, but very few and far between platforms do anything except reccomend the same bunch of songs that you’ve heard a thousand times before.

        And also something that plays well on a mobile browser.

  • MTK@lemmy.world
    341·
    3 days ago

    Calling Peertube a Youtube alternative is just wrong. It is an alternative in theory but it probably doesn’t even have a milionth of the content that Youtube has.

    • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
      1·
      1 day ago

      A potential alternative then. It’s up to us to foster that potential. If we want to have an alternative to YouTube, we’ll actually have to actively do something to change that.

    • Buy-European.net@lemmy.caOPM
      18·
      3 days ago

      That’s the problem with “the winner takes it all” on the Internet. Which European alternative would you suggest instead?

      • 𝕨𝕒𝕤𝕒𝕓𝕚@feddit.org
        18·
        3 days ago

        There is no real YouTube alternative, unfortunately. The content makes a video platform great. No alternative video platform is anywhere close to YouTube in content diversity.

        It’s unfortunately a very different situation to most other things. For example you can “simply” convince your circle of friends to use Threema. Try convincing your favorite Youtubers to post on any alternative platform and see how far you get.

        • SeboBear@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          I understand - my hope here would be we see „real“ content that is not clickbait optimized as there is no incentive on that

      • MTK@lemmy.world
        171·
        3 days ago

        I’m not saying PeerTube is bad, but if I was a regular person that wanted an alternative to YouTube, going to PeerTube would be an annoying experience that will probably turn me off from it. You have to let people come with the appropriate expectations.

    • "no" banana@lemmy.world
      56·
      3 days ago

      I told OP this in previous post; Spotify gave money to Trumps’ inauguration. That’s why it was removed.

      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
        16·
        3 days ago

        Shameless plug for Navidrome

        Want your music, always available. No ads, no enshitification. Maximum quality, always reliable?

        There is only one clear winner for me.

      • Buy-European.net@lemmy.caOPM
        81·
        3 days ago

        We learn and iterate. Thanks for the feedback! We still list Spotify in the database but plan to include quality factors in the (probably not so near) future as well to better differentiate between “European address” and “European commitment”.

          • Buy-European.net@lemmy.caOPM
            16·
            3 days ago

            Production in EU, Production in Europe, Production outside Europe could be factors for example and is what I referred to as “European commitment” prior. “European address” would be minimum presence in Europe but formally incorporated there.

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
      53·
      2 days ago

      Why don’t we include nestle then?

      Just because it is European, doesn’t mean the company is worth a shit dripping down a wall.

      Spotify is a shit company. Pays artists by far the lowest in the industry (especially if you take into account their scummy minimums, catches, and terms for smaller musicians), injects shitty AI songs into Spotify-made playlists so they won’t have to pay the artists the little they do, gives “donations” to fascists, and heavily invests in fucking war companies including partnering one who is essentially trying to make “the dark night” tracking machine to pair with AI assassination drones.

      (Also side note, have you noticed all of these scummy surveillance companies making their names into very well-known references to pop culture so that all news stories on them are essentially lost to the pop culture void when searching for them? Palantir, helsing, etc…)

      • torrentialgrain@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        Yes, multiple people have pointed this out already and I’ve agreed with them. However I work in the music industry and Spotify is definitely not paying by far the lowest. By sheer volume they’re paying most of the share a song is earning nowadays and even on a per play basis they are fairly similar to their competitors, maybe slightly lower.

        We can make the argument that revenue on a per stream basis is much too low in general and I would agree, but then we also have to rethink the entire pricing model.

        • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
          1·
          2 days ago

          OK, true Pandora pays the least, but Spotify is down there.

          Spotify pays 0.3¢ per stream.

          Tidal pays 1.3¢ per stream, 400% more

          Qobuz is around 4¢ per stream, 300% more. Some regions can apparently go down to as little as 1¢ per stream, still much more.

          Hell, apple music pays over double what Spotify does at 0.8¢

          Yes it pay around what shitty US companies pay per stream, but the whole point of this point is that it is a bad standard. PLUS, these other services don’t have the “shit on small artists” policies like Spotify.

          Let’s take a small artist that has 10k streams on Spotify and qobuz:

          • on qobuz they earn more than 100 euros

          • on Spotify they earn 0 euros

          and anything above their minimum, does not earn the total, but the total - the minimum

          A small artist that has 20k streams on the same two, and assume the Spotify stream minimum is 10k (IIRC it is a bit higher)

          • on qobuz, they earn more than 200€

          • on spotify, they earn about 30€

          Plus this isn’t even addressing the making of shitty AI music and injecting it in playlists to steal even more revenue from artists.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      154·
      3 days ago

      but also platforms right wingers that had an impact on influencing our election. i get i shouldn’t be the one guiding boycotts of my own nation’s products, i’m just saying spotify has been antihelpful when it comes to the creation of this situation

  • Dop@lemmy.world
    304·
    3 days ago

    Where’s Signal (or molly if you need foss)? Signal is an non-profit organisation, so I’d say it can hardly be branded ‘from’ anywhere unless you’re talking about servers location but then…