“Did I miss something?”
No, you intentionally avoided listening to what we were telling you.
If Mangolini weren’t such an idiot, he wouldn’t have revoked the de minimus exemption (meaning orders under $800 were exempt from the tariffs), then his rube followers would never have noticed anything.
Except for all the infrastructure inflation they’ll pay for indirectly.
That blame is easily shifted because the Republicans just let infrastructure crumble and keep the same budget. When dems up the taxes to pay for the infrastructure its clearly their fault.
someone on reddit mentioned that it would be “beneficial” for the gop to have several elecitons, because it will show them how bad it is if dems arnt around to clean up the mess every other election, JUST MAYBE we might see some change. it is the case in kentucky i believed where the gop did such a bad job/the r GOV did they dint want another one to completely trash the state, so they needed a scapegoat.
In Texas the Republicans have been running the state for 30 years, and still every election ad from Republicans is that only the Republicans can save us from the hell scape the Democrats have made of Texas.
without the 4 blue counties propping up the state which they butchered, it would instantly collapsed already.
I give it 2 years before they have rolling blackouts daily. The grid is already struggling and they are not making it better.
I’m not totally convinced that a huge swath of trump voters ever heard any alternatives to the propaganda that lead them to believe tariffs=good. Like i imagine a ton of them are structurally isolated from hearing alternatives the way social media and television works
Yes. They missed the part where they specifically and repeatedly said they were going to do this. Because American voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.
A sea sponge at least absorbs something.
It also doesn’t fuck up life for everyone else on the planet, which is a boon.
My sister voted for Trump, only learned after the fact, because of “the inflation” so I asked her how she tough the tariffs would help on that. Her answer? “What do you mean, what are tariffs?” A little too late I send her a youtube video about Tariffs and Trump and she was like wtf. She lives in California, so it’s not like she helped him win, but I’m going to keep a tab on her before elections.
its low information voters that mostly voted for him besides the incels/joe roegan people.
This is what the democratic party has to learn. Your sister is a sizable representation of the electorate. They have no goddamn idea how anything works. They voted purely based on vibes. You have to capture the terminally unengaged and uninformed voters if you want to be able to stay in power.
Yup.
In America you have to lie, or at the very least dangle shiny things in front of idiots, to win an election.
Sucks, but it’s the truth. Talking about actually policy is out of most fool’s wheelhouses. Gotta appeal to their simple feelings.
How do these people function in daily life? It’s baffling.
Cheap debt.
Not anymore.
Ah, because of the famous inflation dial in the US president’s office which Biden kept cranked up for shits and giggles. Well known fact.
The inflation which was most likely due to Trump’s bungled handling of COVID…
The attention span of the average voter is short than that of a goldfish.
She sounds like a single issue voter.
Thats really the biggest problem. People not looking at the whole candidate.
Voting by “vibe”. No critical thinking, and even less empathy.
Single issue voters at least purport to understand their pet issue…
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AmericanTrump voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.FTFU.
No the non-voters are just as responsible for this mess.
And some of the Democratic voters might actually approve of them waving little round signs around while they vote for Republican bills and confirm Republican nominations.
The percentage of Americans who are above sea sponge levels seems to be vanishingly small.
Unfortunately the Trump virus has infected other countries too. I’m really proud of Canada for not following us.
Oh we still have a major fight on our hands. It was a very close outcome and only happened because we burned our number 3 and 4 parties to the ground to make it happen. That isn’t really a win. It only buys a little time to get our shit together before this happens again.
Hey, man, don’t insult the sea sponge.
SpongeBob.
Americans are dumb as fuck
The rest of the world too. Americans are just louder and prouder about stupidity.
That is objectively false. Other countries are far more educated.
Don’t mistake education for intelligence.
Trump has a degree from Wharton.
Correction: Trump’s father BOUGHT a degree from Wharton.
No one who actually earned a college degree, especially from a notable college, speaks and acts and makes mistakes like Donald Trump.
I’m sure Wharton educated trump. Whether any of it mattered… Well that’s the difference between education and intelligence…
I wouldn’t be sure. His professor from Wharton said he was the “dumbest fucking student he’s ever had”
Well that’s the difference between education and intelligence…
Literally right there.
Yup.
Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.
Not a great feeling. Especially since that probably means things aren’t generally gonna get better. Can’t have a good society if it’s overflowing with dipshits.
What’s the George Carlin quote? Something about how stupid the most average person you know is, then realize that 50% of people are dumber than that?
Yeah that’s the bit pretty much word-for-word
Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.
Yep, I’m smart enough to know I’m not that smart. But I can at least look around me and go “This isn’t normal, right?”
It’s a weird fucking curse to have. Smarter than the average American due to the decades of under-funding the education system. I know how to use a computer more than boomers and younger people stuck using machines locked down by corporations.
Ask me to do a math question higher than high school level? I’m going to flounder. You ask me who was president in 1890 without looking it up, I probably know it. And I know that’s not exactly a flex, it’s probably overall better to know more advanced math than trivia, but it’s just how my brain works.
And yet I’m still smarter than Trump and his cultists.
This post resonates very muchly with me.
I’m in the same boat as you. I think I’m pretty middle of the pack. The bottom is filled with genuine morons.
This is by design. Decades of eroding education and critical thinking have produced a populace that is highly ignorant and extremely easy to manipulate.
There is a reason why attacking education is the first thing any right-wing government does.
Indeed, add in all the religious meddling in educational curriculum and you’ve got a recipie for an ignorant population.
And depending on how that SCOTUS ruling goes on religious charter schools…it might accelerate.
Amongst wealthy countries, the US scores above average in science and reading comprehension, and are only really showing lag in mathematics. In terms of critical thinking, this has been a baked-in element of the curriculum, that was intentionally baked-in, for a long time now. Most countries are this way, and those that have dedicated time to specifically critical thinking, as its own subject, are relatively new, and not many do it, in primary education, yet. So this means the US is not unique in how poorly students are taught critical thinking, amongst countries with similar levels of resources.
Also, baby boomers demonstrated a lower level of critical thinking skills, than kids do today, they also show sharper cognitive decline, earlier in life, than X, and millennials have been. So is it that the conservatives have been trying to disassemble the public school system, to move funds to privatized education, thus eroding the common access to education? If so, why does the US actually score well compared to its peers? Why is it that the oldest common generation is actually the worst of the common generations, still alive, for things like critical thinking, and cognitive decline?
So there is some other factor(s) that make the US seem to stand out on this issue, amongst peers. Could it be US media specifically empowering the voice of morons, because outrage drives viewership, and profit is the only goal to US news/media companies? Is it that the elites within the conservative party have redesigned their entire party structure, and playbook, to empower morons, because morons vote for them more often than not? Is it a combination of these factors, and others, that have been shaping the US in this fashion? Could this be why we have been seeing greater, and greater, pushes from political influence groups, in other countries, that have ties to US wealth? Things like dismantling the NHS, establishing US style media as the dominant party in places like europe (murdoch family owned outlets getting larger pieces of the pie, and pushing sentiment to dismantle not for profit sources, like the BBC, and NPR/PBS, for example), far right parties, trump cocksuckers, putin cocksuckers, etc. have been on the rise for past ten plus years? Could it also be that people are growing increasingly disaffected with capitalism, and there are a lot of people lashing out, lacking understanding of what is causing life to be more difficult, and reaching out, in desperation, to anyone who sounds different from those who got us here, even if it should be obvious those people would likely make these specific issues worse? Is it that these things are also compounded with a growing desire, amongst the growing disproportionately wealthy set, to push all the bad aspects of societal structure, to hasten its collapse, and then swoop in to take over directly?
IMHO it is all of the factors in the previous paragraph, and others I haven’t bothered to bring up, and not so much the education system, at least not yet. Sorry for the word vomiting in this post.
You missed lead poisoning. I believe that’s epidemic in America…
Yes the lead is one of the many issues i didn’t get into, it is on the decline though. However, microplastics is the new lead. We know it affects the endocrine system, as of yet, though, we do not know how, or what the effects will be. Point being, blaming this behavior on education isn’t shooting at the right target, and there are so many targets.
Sure, but microplastics is a world wide issue. Lead, not so much. And here, we were discussing why America, in particular, is so goddam stupid.
I don’t think these factors are specifically unique to the US, some more than other. I think a lot of the environmental stuff you can see in many places, lead is not just a problem in the US, we are just more talkative about it.
https://www.cgdev.org/publication/combatting-hidden-epidemic-lead-poisoning-ideas-eu
Oh, definitively not. I’m not even 30, and I remember that NY dad’s car from when I was a kid needed a special additive to replace the lead, because that had been banned since he bought it
Doesn’t help that a whole lot of idiots also think it’s somehow very clever of them to “rise above” it all by acting like it’s “both sides”. This is what passes (for a special kind of smug idiot) for political acumen.
Of course, the “liberal media” harps on the “both sides” thing all the freaking time. Which is why I find it mighty curious that a lot of supposed “leftists” take up that mantra, too.
*Rightists.
Right wingers are the only people I hear the “both sides” mantra from. I don’t know what media you’re consuming, but you got it ass backwards.
You must be new to lemmy
The bullshit “liberal media” does the “both sides” thing all the freaking time.
And I’m talking about an awful lot of supposed leftists on places like Lemmy that do things like “but Biden’s economy was actually BAD!” and so on. I could go on for other examples…now, whether I believe most of them are actual leftists, I dunno…
The thing I hear occasionally and that I actually agree with is that from an outsiders’ perspective, the US has a right wing party and a far-right party.
Americans didn’t realize 1/3 lb burger is bigger than a 1/4 lb burger…
There’s also the time JCPenney’s actually had everything at the best price and so they weren’t doing discounts. But everyone was waiting for the ‘sales’. Your average American would rather have something be marked up $200 and then listed as 75% off than just pay $50 regular price.
Americans would work as a dishwasher and believe it’s the American dream.
Sigh, Its worse than that. Most of us are lazy. Lazy with their thoughts and how they learn new information. By the time they notice how bad they have it wrong you want to slap them. Of course most of them will blame anyone but themselves for their problems.
We don’t have that on lock, dipshit. Look around you, the entire world is fucking up royally. We just happen to be one of the biggest shitshows going.
The fact that you treat Americans like a monolith shows that you’re dumb as fuck too.
Yeah, he made a huge mistake.
Its merely that most Americans are dumb as fuck.
I think lead poisoning is epidemic in America. Decades of no money being spent on infrastructure will do that.
Yeah, I dunno broseph. Lots of other first world countries have things like universal healthcare, paternity leave, significant and mandatory vacation, longer lifespans, generally higher quality of life and happiness, politics that aren’t straight up clown shows, more human rights.
You’ve successfully nailed an obvious generalization that there are stupid people everywhere, but the point is that stupidity is hyper-concentrated in the good ol’ US of A. As is evident.
I mean. Many countries are still resisting to the right-wing authoritarian push. Canada for example. Americans democratically elected dt, even after he tried to overturn the government and explicitly stated that he would be a dictator. I don’t think that would have been possible in any other country. So yeah, in a sens, Americans are dumb af. Now if you want to make it semantic question, I guess he should have written " a majority" of Americans “electors” are dumb, but it’s kind of implicit IMO. Kind of like saying dogs likes to run, obviously there’s probably some that don’t like to run, but the majority does.
Just accept it. We have free healthcare for 50 years.
oh boy, you really showed them!
America, as a nation, is unarguably fucking stupid. The rest of the world has been overly influenced by America, due to it’s wealth and power, for a very long time. We used to say that when America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold. Recent events have seen a great decoupling of the world from America. We’ve seen that the American way is utterly fucked. America is the turd that is sinking whilst the rest of the world will get more buoyant as the new reality sinks in.
I think you’re misconstruing hate with stupidity. Many are more hateful than dumb.
hate and stupidity go hand in hand
I always knew this based on education standards/testing, but I wasn’t thinking we were a special needs country. All that revolution and democracy and hundreds of years of success and growth and then we just shoot ourselves in the face.
But hey, at least we got… to own the libs?
Donald J Trump is a liar, rapist, cheat and a lousy business man that has failed every single business, and Americans voted in this useless excuse for a human being to enforce facism, racism, and colonialism. Well done America.
You forgot sexism. There’s a non-zero amount of people who simply will never vote for a woman.
“Non zero” just doesn’t do justice to the sheer amount who won’t vote for a woman. Even among women voters.
I for one could never vote for a man to be president. Men are just too emotional to serve as leaders. Do you really want some roid-rage dude with his hands on the nuclear button? Please. Men are just too pigheaded, irrational, and obsessed with petty dominance issues to be trusted with real power. They’re like selfish little children. Can you imagine it, a male president? The very idea is laughable! Only someone who knows just how hard it is to birth and raise a child should be trusted with the power to direct the military to take lives. Only women can really grasp the real stakes involved. /s
sexism and racism, the reason people were giving for not voting her, is because “i dont like her, or she hasnt done anything” codewords for she was black and a woman.
He bankrupted a casino.
A FUCKING CASINO!
That’s like bankrupting a money printer.
He will probably manage to that too soon.
Multiple casinos.
I honestly hate that I know so much about this sad excuse for a human.
The Feds were on the trail of the Russian dirty money being laundered through it.
6 times bankruptcy! He’s so bad that after the last one, no western bank would work with him at all. That’s when he went to Russian oligarchs for cashflow, and the rest is history…
if trump had invested in a index fund of his inheritence he would be close to 100bn richer. now hes just prostituting to whoever is richer to give him some money.
6 times bankrupt, bankrupt casinos, 34 felony convictions, WWE Superstar, known Russian agent, coup leader, the list is extensive…but he was on TV a lot. He’s perfect. I want him.
Twice.
and actively worked with russia since the 80s to undermine the USA.
One mistake Temu is making is showing it as “Import fees”. That’s correct of course, but they should label it specifically as “Import tariffs” or “Tariffs”, so that it’s clear what this is. From the comments in the linked reddit threads, a lot of people just think they’re extra fees Temu is voluntarily putting on as retaliation, their brains still aren’t making the link between “import fees” and “trump’s tariffs on China”.
There are some brave businesses around here that have started posting signs.
“Due to tariffs, we’ve had to raise our prices.”
I’m in the Deep South, I bet by end of week I see a place charging “Fuck China” surcharges.
Definitely needs to be “Trump’s tariff” to be clear.
Trump Tariff Tax would be even better.
This has abbreviation potential. “Have you paid the TTT on this?”.
Did you stutter?
Yeah maybe when spoken aloud we can use “triple T” instead haha.
Digikey an electronics parts site has it listed on their stuff now.
Same with Mouser. They have for a few weeks now.
import tax
“Trump Tariff”
I wish I was in a place were I had no idea what was going on. I’m just twitching when I think about Republicans sending people to concentration camps with out charges or trial. That just means everyone is just sheep to be plucked. We are now just living on luck.
federal despotism
It’s only just begun. Wait until there are empty shelves at Wal-Mart. MAGA is going to have to work overtime to blame it on Biden.
It’s not hard work. They just blame Biden. When you’re lying, and everyone knows you’re lying, then there’s no reason to put effort into the lie. If that doesn’t catch on, they’ll blame someone else. Zelensky or Xi, or they can always Blame Canada.
Blame Canada you say? Oh my god…South Park Movie predicted this…
“it’s not even a real country anywaaayyy.”
“Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker”
“We must blame them and cause a fuss before somebody thinks of blaming us”
Hunter Biden’s laptop and Hillary Clinton’s emails
The working overtime part is just so they can continue to feed themselves while they blame Biden.
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!
The local shipping port was empty yesterday. The last time I saw it that empty was during covid. It is genuinely frightening.
Hehe but there’s no freight.
walmart, the magats go-to for stores.
Doesn’t matter who they blame… blame won’t fill the shelves.
Did I miss something?
Jesus fucking Christ yes
Nooo, not the fascist i’m voting for… There must be something else i’m missing
A Lemmy post about an article about a Reddit post. The internet feels more and more incestuous every day.
I responded to a question on Reddit that I am knowledgeable of to make an educated guess. Then, it turns out OP is a journalist and asked me if he could quote me. But I declined because even though I know the topic well enough, I am not an expert and don’t have the credentials to show for. I mean, I could have allowed OP to quote me and feed my ego, but I don’t want to sow misinformation if I am wrong. And besides, being quoted with my then strange username will make the article strange.
Yeah, journalism is getting lazier and lazier.
Journalism is dead because Sinclair has been gobbling up local news.
Check to see who your local news outlet is - several of mine are owned by like Missouri’s retirement fund or something.
I realized journalism was truly dead a few years back when I noticed that most news articles online are just a bunch of Twitter posts talking about the headline. I fantasize about writing a movie where Edward R. Murrow comes back from the dead as a demon and just goes around slaughtering lazy journalists, which forces other journalists to actually do their fucking jobs.
just a bunch of Twitter posts talking about the headline
Combine that with the dead internet theory and you’ve got yourself a corporate owned propaganda machine on all fronts
Yeah now it’s all written by AI, sourcing their info from Twitter and Reddit posts that were also written by AI.
Make it into a comic. It could be the next “V for Vendetta” or “Akumetsu”, but for journalism.
BREAKING! Doctor_Satan says he wants to go around slaughtering journalists because quote: They actually don’t do their (censored) jobs.
Is this “nottheonion”? I cant believe that people are so oblivious.
“Did Biden drop out” was trending on Google on election day. We’re cooked.
This makes sense, people were trying to find out how it would impact them (we both are on the same page that we would want them to do that before the election).
It probably would have been better if people looked that up BEFORE voting.
The onion endorsed Dark Brandon after he dropped
Every person’s media bubble is tuned to them. If they’re disinterested in politics their algorithm will steer them right away from all the troubles that were abundantly aware of.
And if they’re into politics, it will be a bubble as well. Not even left/right. It’s a bubble of your specific flavor of politics/humor. Because also political discussion and humor go hand in hand now at all times, apparently.
This is an inevitable (and was preventable) result of a two party system, unless someone is “into” politics they are trained to tune out.
Can confirm - I track grocery prices every week and the cumulative “Biden inflation” was about 17% over 4 years, or about 4% per year average. Last week was already a 15% yoy increase, and some stuff is legitimately 100% yoy already.
and some stuff is legitimately 100% yoy already.
It’s 100% day over day – or rather, 145% or even 170% day over day – because that’s what happens when you apply a 145 or 170% tariff to it!
What people in the US also need to realize is, that the rest of the world still enjoys more or less unchanged prices on these sites. It is only the US that has put tarrifs on them and it has only affected the American consumers
On the other hand, American products are getting more expensive everywhere else, because of the retaliational tarrifs by the usa.
So it is a double edged sword, but the US is holding it by it’s blade! With both hands!
The US is screaming and holding a hot pan fresh out of the oven, but refusing to just set it down and use the fucking oven mits next time.
Meanwhile, other countries are watching this happen, but somehow having a relatively difficult time deciding if they maybe want to give it a try with their own government.
was an article that EU is gonna get flooded by super cheap items now, china will sell at a loss. that is gonna take shares from US items even more, and US items was already overpriced and gonna become even more expensive.
its like triple loss for US. they need to lower US wages if they want be able to compete.
Been speed running a slave class with private prisons. I believe they are prepared.
China has more people willing to work for low wages than the US can find or make prisoners.
I’m aware of that. Not sure the dictator is though.
Until sellers start jacking prices up elsewhere in the world to make up for lost revenue from the American market
The American market is a massive part of some companies yes. But most companies only have a small percentage of revenue in the US.
Listen… the US is just one country. Its a big one and one that buys a lot. But still one country. Many companies can compensate the loss of that market by exploring the many other markets that they have down played. Furthermore, the availability of products that would have gone to the US may even make it cheaper to make and sell products everywhere else than in the US
That would be akin to death by sudoku
(Yes, I know it’s seppuku)
Now the stupid ones can ‘figure’ it out.
Or do their own research to figure out why everything is so expensive.
Their own reasearch will be to see what the orange tumor says. He will say its liberal gay immigrants.
This is exactly what is happening. All these polls showing Trump is losing confidence are BS. They need to ask if a democrat would do better, and almost all MAGAs would say no. And keep voting in republicans.
“I haven’t been keeping up with news or what’s going on!!! I have been ordering a lot this past month for my daughters wedding… did I miss something???”
I mean Jesus TapDancing Christ. You’ve not been aware of who the president is and what he is doing??? It’s not like tariffs haven’t been in the news at all. They (along with illegal renditions and other attacks on civil liberties) have been dominating the news cycles since January. I have never been one to ignore news, so even if quite busy with something in life I read headlines at the very least. It confounds me to know some folks ignore news willfully. Some even think of it like it’s some twisted badge of honor.
I know head-in-sand people exist, but I am dismayed, baffled and extremely disappointed that they still behave the same when the house is burning down around them. Especially when this ignorance is obviously present in a large block of people in the US.
Please wake the hell up everyone, the house is on fire! (I know I am preaching [venting] to the choir in this venue.)“Oh I don’t pay attention to politics.”
Guess what, politics pays fucking attention to you
politics pays fucking attention to you
What was that bullshit propaganda catch-phrase the right-wingers were spewing a while back, to bitch and moan that their abhorrent “values” of bigotry and hate were “under attack?” Oh yeah: “You Will Be Made to Care.”
As always, yet fucking again, it was pure projection.
I’ve tried to severely limit my intake since the election and just taken in enough info to have a foundation for context, I don’t need to see 400 alliterations of some doom and gloom headline, but yes, even in this fairly limited scope I’m WELL aware of the tariffs. It’s absolutely willful to be this tuned out
Completely understandable to limit info for mental health reasons and I sometimes feel the same. This isn’t that obviously.
Are you really that surprised? I regularly see people even on Lemmy talking about how much they wish they could disconnect from everything going on and live a quiet peaceful life in the country. That’s essentially what all these people have chosen; they have decided the world is too scary for them and they don’t want to process it anymore. Things will continue to get worse for them, and they won’t have any idea why.
