In that same period, Bartkus’ rhetoric on alternative social media sites was dark. “I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”
So this guy is 25, and his dad is 75. Hm.
Hasn’t talked to his dad in a decade. Dad did stalk him out on Instagram to cyber bully him about 4 years ago, though. Hmm.
Mom’s age isn’t listed here, but she’s 63. 12 years younger. Honestly was expecting a larger age gap. Same last name as Sophie. Hmmm.
The father: Despite my past history of both alleged and documented abuse, restraining orders, estranged family, and seemingly multiple people in my orbit that have expressed a hatred for living, I want you all to know I consider myself to be a loving father and a good person.
Expect more as the stressors in society increase
This is the result of people feeling hopeless in a dying world
Instead of fixing the domestic abuse, economy, and environmental issues that led to this we will increase spending on our police state to kill anyone who dissents.
We can clutch pearls all day about how horrible this 25 year old is, but we would be doing the same in his situation because the things he experienced lead people there.
Expect these kinds of things to happen more
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I do find it odd that lemmy’s first major insident isn’t from .ml or any other Tankie instance, it’s .world.
Does speak to the mismanagement of the moderation. This dude was fucked up in the head and only taken care of after this terrorist incident. You can call out moderators and be banned, you can be a dickhead edge lord who would later be a terrorist, and never get touched until the mods deal with it after.
>expecting leftists to get out of the armchair
world does have the politics community which they allow a certain narrative more than others.
I do find it odd that lemmy’s first major insident isn’t from .ml or any other Tankie instance, it’s .world.
Does speak to the mismanagement of the moderation…
Keep in mind that Lemmy.world has almost the same amount of monthly active users as the top 7 other Lemmy instances combined (according to FediDB). It’s statistically very likely that they’re from there.
Correct, but for an instance that tried to stop posts about Luigi, has wanted people to “Debate” flat world and transphobia, they just didn’t do anything with the communities that lead to this attempted attack.
Meanwhile I know people who proved a mod wrong and got banned, and the mod hasn’t been punished.
Yeah. It’s kind of like saying you’re suprised rape happens more often in India than Iceland. (population differences distort probabilities).
He was on Lemmy for a short time two years ago.
He was much more active, and posted on the .world antinatalist fourm. The admins have removed posts/comments 3 days ago before the headlines rolled out.
If you check what a few members have posted (I’ll try to gather what I can, I hate people who say something and then go "well google you dingus, and I hate being a hypocrite even more), he was active for a while beyond those 2 years, telling people some horrid shit.
I genuinely will try to gather what I can whenever I put on my biohazard suit and check some instances.
The admins have removed posts/comments 3 days ago before the headlines rolled out.
You sure? Usually, removed posts & comments still show up on their profile; they just say “removed” instead of seeing the actual text of it. Unless it was physically removed from the database, there would be some evidence of it. And even the database method wouldn’t federate, I’m pretty sure, so you’d still be able to see it if you looked in other instances. On no instance that I checked was I able to find any evidence the user made any submissions after 23 July, 2023.
Please share if you find something but don’t go out of your way.
I probably will, I would rather give sources that prove me wrong than be one of those dipshits who go “Um googling is free, expecting me to give sources for things I’m saying is asking too much of me. Please ignore that people who made claims are the ones who are expected to prove it, instead of the other way around.”
Finally some exposure for Lemmy in the news.
😭
Holy Shit. What a dumbass.
Is other people’s choice to have kids or not really the hill you want to die on??
Well anyways, if this article is legit, looks like we’ll have a couple FBI agents joining us here. Welcome!
Ugh, now I have to add “in Minecraft” to all my posts.
Is other people’s choice to have kids or not really the hill you want to die on??
Look at politics since USA founding. Nathaniel Hawthorne warned us. Buddha, Jesus, Rumi, others taught unity, with self and others and vexed the greedy politicians and religious power structures that propped them up, telling us wealth is to be shared, and other teachings that ended up stripped from religiopolotical structures because they threaten those power structures.
Buddha … taught unity, with … others
Umm… I don’t think the Buddha taught that?
Look at politics since USA founding.
look at the way the natives were treated, the overall general thing that you could say about the north american natives is that they respected each others existence and life. And for the most part believed in respect for nature. The Conquistadors were monsters and brought monstrous behavior that we still deal with today. Trump is just following in Jackson’s steps trying to displace more people with native blood. Just the new displacement is happening to those with blood from the south
They’re human. The best and worst behaviors of human beings are human behaviors, and we can mitigate or exacerbate that. Society needs to look in the mirror and decide whether we want to be the better or worst collective selves. Our politicians reflect back to us our collective choice. It took a long time to get here. If we don’t like where we are, we’d better collectively get busy working on ourselves and setting better examples. Then we may put a healthier reflection of ourselves in leadership positions.
Mentally ill people always targeting other plebs…
We’ve got to do something about these mods, folks.
transphobes continue to be weird losers, shocking
Isn’t that him attempting to be supportive of “trans stuff”? Still quite a wild statement to “despise nature” though.
An edgelord approving of “trans stuff” because he sees it as an affront to nature, but good because he “despises nature”. if that’s what “support” sounds like I don’t want it.
tbf i think he means bioessentialism, cause antinatalism is against the fact that it is “in our nature” to reproduce, therefore we should, and it’s easy to conflate the two.
I do agree that he is an edgelord tho, and probably doesn’t fully understand antinatalism in its full depth
Yeah, his comment history definitely shows a very fucked up way of thinking.
It’s a fucked up world.
Not “because of”. You have read that into the text, which actually says, “Something I love about…” which is also how someone might talk about an unexpected benefit they discover about something they already love.
I don’t see how “something I love about” necessarily implies that they also love other things, it could easily be read as only a sarcastic appreciation. I don’t consider myself ‘a big middle finger to nature and traditional culture’ and personally I don’t appreciate people who do see me that way.
That said it’s still sad seeing someone clearly going through a lot blow themselves up for what amounts to nonsense philosophy instead of finding something meaningful to do.
I don’t see how “something I love about” necessarily implies that they also love other things, it could easily be read as only a sarcastic appreciation.
It could be said that way, yes. There is an ambiguity. But usually it is used to indicate specifically that it isn’t the sole factor. I’m not saying he’s being an effective ally, or even that he’s trying to be an ally. I just think you misinterpreted to say his views on transgender people are solely based in rebellion against nature and tradition.
I’m sorry it’s hurtful to you, in any case. I am also very disturbed.
I just think you misinterpreted to say his views on transgender people are solely based in rebellion against nature and tradition.
I certainly wasn’t giving him the most charitable reading, nor did I care for his conclusions.
Considering the very real threats out there it’s concerning seeing people latch onto nonsense philosophies.
Many of the trans people I know struggle with their dichotomous nature. They don’t necessarily see their natural body as something to be celebrated. I know that is far from universal among trans people but it’s something people often see from outside the culture looking in.
They don’t necessarily see their natural body as something to be celebrated.
I said I don’t see being transgender as something unnatural or a ‘big middle finger’ to either nature or tradition. not liking your body doesn’t necessarily mean that correcting it is in opposition to ‘nature’
Something like capitalism has been more of a ‘big middle finger’ to nature and traditional cultures than any other force in history, certainly more so than trans people. Humans have expressed being trans long before things like capitalism and ‘traditional’ family structures too.
it’s just sad seeing people latch onto nonsense philosophy and self destruct pointlessly
Still, quite a wild statement to “despise nature” though.
I think it requires privilege not to despise nature.
In those public postings, Bartkus argued that procreation without consent of the unborn is unethical and unjustifiable in a world struggling with environmental harm, violence and overpopulation.
Such a strange paradox.
How do they propose to obtain the consent of the unborn?
Exactly. And realistically, they would need to be at least a teenager before they would truly understand what they’re accepting.
He’s an antinatalist!
Quoting the article
"I’m glad I’m an extremist,” he wrote. “Makes me WAY less tethered to this turd of a planet.
Very very screwed up. People like him are dangerous to society.
He could have offed himself instead of harming others then
Yes, this is confusing. It doesn’t appear to align with other values he expresses. Maybe he needed to see his death as heroic and was willing to twist things to be able to see it that way. Maybe he didn’t believe he was putting others at risk; I haven’t managed to research the details of the event yet.
Most Saturdays, Abdallah and his staff are flitting between patient rooms and laboratories, sterilizing equipment, checking on growing embryos and walking hopeful parents through the arduous process of in vitro fertilization.
But through a series of inexplicable events, the clinic was completely empty on Saturday when the car exploded outside.
Abdallah had spontaneously decided to visit family. Two other weekend employees had been called away. And the clinic, just days before, had rescheduled a procedure that would have required 12 employees to be in the office at the time of the explosion.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/us/palm-springs-clinic-bombing-fertility-clinic-explosion
It’s always monstrous when people turn to violence for their imagined greater good. It’s so easy to misunderstand one’s own motivations. This is so undermining to his own supposed goals.
I notice that the clinic advertises that it is closed Saturday. One could wonder if he thought there were nothing but embryos inside. But you can’t create a detonation that tears apart an entire building and damages others, and not be aware that people might die.
thankfully he was the only death
Fucked up if true. I don’t like kids and I’d never have any myself but it’s fucked up to deprive others of that choice, especially those misfortunate enough to be infertile against their wishes, and to do so by murder of innocent souls.
It was a suicide. That’s all. The rest of the stuff drawn from his philosophy was what he used to rationalize his own suicide to himself. It wasn’t the actual reason he killed himself, it was just how he motivated himself to go through with it.
This puts it better than what I was suppose to write which was “what came first? the desire to blow shit up, or ‘the cause’?”.
How did they connect the user to this account though? Post history doesnt show anything that could lead to it.
Using the same username is not proof they’re the same person online.
they probably have access to his electronics and web history
he lived with his mother and sister. I am sure he left a logged in system somewhere
Same username as his YouTube channel
Likely through a post on another platform, reused username, or an email address and tying it back to the account.
Warrant served to lemmy.world to get IPs? (Perhaps a gag order?)
I’m gonna assume the perp isn’t in a mental state to care about using VPNs or Tor
Idk why but I feel bad for this dude. Like maybe if a couple things had gone differently in his life he wouldn’t have ended up doing this. Like if this dude had been born a bit earlier before the Internet could connect him to bizarre and radical views like this, he probably would have been fine. Anyway, that kind of explains a bunch of comments I saw on another post about this bombing defending the bomber, they were probably part of the same sublemmy that radicalized him.
This is the correct take.
A 25 year old doing this is 100% society’s fault.
I mean, ACEs probably had a lot to do with it. But to our power structure, things like this is a small price to pay, if it accumulates even more wealth in the accounts of the already obscenely wealthy sociopaths running the planet.
Also, if your states’ feds weren’t already here (they were), they are now, in droves.
Good for him
I wouldn’t dare try to interpret what you mean by that, but someone else might make dire assumptions.
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I lack investment in this story
